Yeah, but... if they never get an opportunity to try, try again, they'll never
get any better at NOT letting him down. It's a bit of a vicious cycle, ya know?
Cee
----- Original Message -----
From: Woody
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 5:52 PM
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: "Just win"
Im not sure Meyer would tell him that. His attitude is.. let Tebow be
Tebow... but I see what you are saying and I mostly agree... except for the
fact... he has tried to spread the ball around...and they let him down...
I almost wonder if Tebow is the leader of this team in more ways than one.
Woody
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Randy Platt <pcga...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
Steve,
I will go out on a limb and say that from what I have seen so far the
biggest problem with our offense is Tim Tebow. Granted he is also the best
thing about our offense, but I really don't think he has played as well in
the first half of the season as he did last year. He has two fumbles
because he is holding the ball down by his hip, his decision making,
particularly on passing plays is shaky at best, he seems to look for Cooper
or Hernandez and then run, he still holds on to the ball way to long. I
just think TT is putting too much on himself to carry the team and not
relying on the talent around him to help him out. I just think Meyer needs
to have a little talk with TT and explain that he doesn't have to carry the
offense on his back.
JAFO
Randy Platt
aka "PCGator"
aka "The Armchair Quarterback"
aka "The Other Randy"
Later Gators! Afterwhile the Rest!
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Steve McKibben
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 11:29 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: "Just win"
--- On Wed, 10/21/09, Woody <gatorrr...@gmail.com> wrote:
A win is a win is a win... Ill take em. But is anyone else getting the
impression that that mentality may be setting us back?
The fan base more than the team, IMO
- We're #1... and so long as we win we're in. But will that remain true if
Bama or whoever shows to be more impressive as the season continues?
If it's only Bama that leapfrogs us (and keep in mind they've only done that
in the AP poll so far, which is NOT a component of the BCS poll which
selects the participants in the title game), then, if we "just win" out,
we'll get to decide the "BCS semi-final" on the field with them. To carry
that further, even if we were to drop to #4 in the BCS, a win over a #1 Bama
would likely get us back in the top 2. #3 or better at that point and it's
win, we're in.
- these problems are not just due to Tebows concussion.. that cannot be an
excuse.. he's been on his game. But the entire game cannot rest on his
shoulders.
I'll be interested to see if we run the read option play this week. That's
where Tebow puts the ball in the tailback's belly as if he's running a dive
play then, depending on his read, can pull it out and run it wide, and
possibly pitch it to the trailer. We were killing Kentucky with that pay,
and (ostensibly) to protect Tebow, we have not run it since. We were able to
gash LSU with the straight dive, but Arkansas schemed to take that away, and
we struggled on the ground against them for the most part.
- "just win" because the entire year is going to be a struggle because they
are not as good of a team as we thought. That atleast seems to be true...
And that could be true - especially if the "as good of a team as we thought"
part means as good as those hyper inflated "best team ever" expectations.
- "just win" because Addazzio is still getting his feet wet as a OC and is
going through a learning curve, hence why we are not very productive. Maybe
he's playin it too safe and doesnt wanna screw up?
While he's the OC, our plays are scripted called, and reviewed by committee
and Meyer has the final say. Not saying the old OL coach doesn't like to
give his hosses the opportunity to play smashmouth, but I think if anyone is
reigning in the playcalling, it's probably Meyer.
look..I know meyer isnt happy that we arent happy with just accepting a
win... i dont think thats what we are up in arms about... Im not so sure
thats the case at all... i think everyone of us would accept a win... but I
do think this mentality of "just go in and get out with a win" may be the
wrong mindset. I think it also shows that Meyer doesnt have that much
confidence in this team or someone that is keeping them from being a
dominant figure.
Last year we were very good at not turing the ball over and also very good
at taking it away. That gave our offense a lot of short fields (and in many
cases defensive scores) that allowed our naturally conservative coaches to
loosen up a bit. This year, so far at least, we are minus in the turnover
column, and therefore are looking at longer fields in tighter games, so the
conservative nature shines through. If we'll start getting some timely
turnovers, or more importantly, stop giving them away I think you'll feel a
lot better about the scoreboard.
Again.. maybe im thinking too far into it all
A long drive after a tight game will do that!
... but right now.. Miss St game is scaring the hell outta me.
Until proven otherwise, the only game on our schedule that I don't think we
can possibly lose is FIU. By the same token, despite all of our current
watrs, we're capable of, and in fact, SHOULD be able to win all of
them!</table
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