It as difficult for the average student, not for the student athlete. While Florida may be more stringent on athletes than others, we are no where near as stringent as Vandy, Duke or Stanford, none of which have won a NC in the modern age of football.
I think the argument to get rid of Vandy is spurious at best. They compete very well against us in football, never win but always make it interesting. And they are competitive in basketball, baseball and the non-revenue sports. The more interesting comparison would be to look at Vandy and it's place in the SEC vs the bottom dwellers of other conferences. If you put Vandy in a conference with Washington State, Minnesota, Iowa State, Baylor, Duke, Syracuse, Kansas, Baylor, Indiana, Arizona State and Marykand, where do you think they would rank? My bet would be near the top every year. _____ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of oli...@bobparks.com Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 12:24 PM To: Gator Talk Subject: [gatortalk] Fw: [gatornews] [SUN]: 7/27 13:36 --- "DOOLEY's DESK" --- the Vandy solution [Dooley] You know, it's really as tough or tougher to get into UF as Vandy. Vanderbilt's Medical school might be a little more difficult than Florida's. Of course, here in Nash Vegas that's their excuse EVERY time they get the hell beat out of them. Even if you assume Vandy is tougher than UF, consider North Carolina, Notre Dame, Stanford and Duke. All have high standards and all have multiple Nat'l Championships. Difference? As Dooley says, they care about sports, Vandy doesn't. Let's dump 'em! Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry _____ From: "Shane Ford" <goufgat...@bellsouth.net> Sender: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:48:11 -0500 To: GATORNEWS<gatorn...@googlegroups.com> ReplyTo: gatornews+own...@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatornews] [SUN]: 7/27 13:36 --- "DOOLEY's DESK" --- the Vandy solution [Dooley] <http://dooley.blogs.gatorsports.com/> July 27th, 2010 01:36pm <http://dooley.blogs.gatorsports.com/10688/the-vandy-solution/> the Vandy solution by <http://dooley.blogs.gatorsports.com/author/dooley/> Pat Dooley (Gainesville SUN) Two of the biggest names in southern journalism this week have made a statement I made back in 1998. Both Mike Bianchi of the Orlando Sentinel and Paul Finebaum of the Finebaum Network have written than it's time for Vanderbilt to be kicked out of the SEC. Back in '98 as Florida was blowing out the Commodores, I sat on the 50-yard line at Dudley Field in Nashville and wrote a similar column. Not in the press box but in the stands. There was nobody within 15 yards of me. But I also understand that when we write these kinds of columns it validates the opinions that people outside the South have, that we're pulling up our jean-shorts by our rope belts and saying, "We don't need any of that book learnin' in this conference." Vandy adds a lot to the league in several sports. You also have to realize that for athletic directors in this league, Vandy is a lot better than Arkansas. Nashville is not only a lot easier to get to, it's a lot more fun when you get there. However, Vanderbilt doesn't feel like an SEC school, has rotten facilities and never seems to take football seriously. I'm not pushing for their ouster. Instead, I asking the other 11 schools in the league to demand more of Vandy. They should tell the Commodores heirarchy that its next coach has to make a minimum of 2 million a year. Make Vanderbilt hire someone who players will want to play for. And force the Conmmodores to put some of that money that Alabama and Florida earn for them into their facility. Vandy isn't that much harder than Florida or Georgia to get into to. That's not the problem. The problem is nobody wants to go there. If Vandy is going to remain a viable member of this league, it has to spend some money to make it seem like an SEC team instead of the Kansas City Royals. Otherwise, boot 'em. <http://dooley.blogs.gatorsports.com/10688/the-vandy-solution/feed/> Comments 3 Comments 1. July 27th, 2010 4:53 pm <http://dooley.blogs.gatorsports.com/10688/the-vandy-solution/#comment-2229> Dude, unless you are talking about student athletes you are wrong about the entrance requirements for Vandy vs. Florida. Vanderbilt is much more difficult to get into. Your statement is akin to saying that Yale is not much more difficult to get accepted to than Vanderbilt. BTW, I'm a gator grad, so I don't have an axe to grind. by Crusher 2. July 27th, 2010 5:31 pm <http://dooley.blogs.gatorsports.com/10688/the-vandy-solution/#comment-2230> My daughter was provisionally accepted to both Harvard and UF. The academic standards weren't that far apart. The point is not that the SEC doesn't have some -ahem-less rigorous academies of higher learning, but that if Florida and Georgia can compete athletically AND academically, then what exactly is Vandy's excuse? By the way, I seriously doubt Yale has much higher academic standards than Vandy or UF. It's real hard to get into because of the number of applicants. by John 3. July 27th, 2010 5:47 pm <http://dooley.blogs.gatorsports.com/10688/the-vandy-solution/#comment-2231> Dooley, you need to learn the lesson of the Totem Pole. One head is stacked upon another. Take out the bottom and it only makes a new bottom with a shorter pole. Do that enough and you no longer have a pole. Vandy is on that bottom in FB, by and large, but isn't in other sports. Roundball sports they do pretty well with. Baseball and Basketball in the SEC can find them pretty competitive. Besides, you're missing a GREAT Point. When they are generally known as the bottom of the SEC in football, isn't it Incredibly fun and entertaining when they beat a Tennessee team? Wasn't that fun? Bet you got some mileage out of that one, as all us Gators did. FWIW - moments like that can only be paid for over decades of suckitude. Do you really want to lose moments like that? :) by TxGat -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
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