I don't hate Mullen. I wish him all the best and hope he has a long and 
successful career. I simply object to the media characterization that Gator 
fans wish they had Mullen back again. Some may, but I don't. Sure he called 
some good plays -- Adazzio calls some good plays too -- but that doesn't mean 
he is a particularly good game-day coach. It always seemed to me that he was 
excellent at designing plays on paper, as with some of the ones you pointed 
out, but just never had a feel for the flow of a game and no real knack for 
keeping offensive coordinators off balance. But that's just one opinion.

Rob

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On Oct 19, 2010, at 9:37 AM, jl...@comcast.net wrote:

> I'm not sure where all this hate for Mullen comes from.  Yes, he relied too 
> much on Tebow and Harvin, but most of the time it worked.  He also came up 
> with some brilliant play calls: the jump pass, the Tebow rocker step, the 
> play right before the half against OSU where Tebow took a step towards the 
> LOS, then ran parallel to it before passing to Caldwell for the TD.
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jfranl" <jfr...@earthlink.net>
> To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 12:14:54 AM
> Subject: RE: [gatortalk] I DON'T miss Dan Mullen
> 
> Amen, Brother!!  I don't want him back either.  I always thought that
> superior talent would trump a mediocre offensive play caller, but I guess I
> was wrong. The wheels have fallen off the wagon!  Fran
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Badrish
> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 10:47 PM
> To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [gatortalk] I miss Dan Mullen
> 
> I agree!
> 
> On 10/19/10, wildeart...@gmail.com <wildeart...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Mullen was an unimaginative and uninspired play-caller who won so much
> > because he had great players like Tebow and Harvin. We won in spite of his
> > play-calling, not because of it.  He showed that again Saturday night.
> They
> > didn't win because he had a great game plan, or because he called a good
> > game. They won because we were so bad that they couldn't help it. They
> tried
> > to give us every chance to win, but we wouldn't take it. Adazzio is
> > certainly worse, but I sure don't want Mullen back.
> >
> > Rob
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > On Oct 17, 2010, at 11:16 AM, Scott Lucas <floridagat...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Let me preface this by saying some of you may not like this:  We have not
> >> been very good since Dan Mullen left, and HE may be the reason for
> Urban's
> >> success at Florida and previously.
> >>
> >> Let that sink in.
> >>
> >> Without Dan, Florida's offense is lifeless.  A shell of its former self.
> >> Former?  Yes, former... as in when Mullen was here calling the shots.  Oh
> >> sure, Adazzio had a great offense against Cincinnati.  Whoopie!  It was
> >> Cincinnati-- hardly a perennial power, not from a powerhouse conference,
> >> and they got exactly what any middle of the road SEC would give them.
> >> That is Adazzio's best game.  A game in which he had 3 weeks to prepare.
> >> He has not accomplished anything real other than that.
> >>
> >> As for Dan, why is he the key to UM's success?  He makes his offense work
> >> with what he has.  He inherited Chris Leak, the offense was modified, and
> >> we won with him.  Won it all.  We had our Tebow years, modified the
> >> offense, and we won with him.  Mullen leaves, we have a Leak clone, we
> >> don't modify and we are losing horribly.  But what has Dan done?  He went
> >> to an underachieving school.  Looked at what he had, he modified and is
> >> winning.  He took a perennial cellar dweller and is making it work, with
> >> someone else's recruits because a good carpenter can work with the tools
> >> he has...
> >>
> >> Dan does what MUST be done to win.  He ran the ball 29 out of 30 times
> >> against us.  Why?  It was working and it was what he needed to do to win.
> >> He saw what Alabama did to us up the middle, and he copied it.  He say
> >> what LSU did to us, and he copied it.  He is adjusting... modifying.  He
> >> is doing what must be done to win, and he did it with far less quality of
> >> player than Bama and LSU had.  This does not bode well for us.
> >>
> >> Our coaches insist on running an offense that is ill suited for our
> >> personnel.  Dan wouldn't do this.  We are trying to force TOO many square
> >> pegs into round holes.  Dan wouldn't do this either.
> >>
> >> You think it is just about Brantley?  It is not.  Without adequate
> >> blocking, and by adequate I mean they open a hole occasionally, running
> >> backs will go nowhere.  Especially a 190 pound running back when you run
> >> right up the middle.  It doesn't matter how fast you are when all there
> is
> >> in front of you is a wall of defenders.  We have no solid tight end
> >> threat.  We have hybrids.  We have kids playing positions that they can
> >> play but maybe shouldn't be playing, at least not yet.  Dan wouldn't do
> >> this.
> >>
> >> We have a complete and total lack of a deep threat.  Are all these blue
> >> chip recruits suddenly slow?  Or can Brantley just not complete the long
> >> ball?  Or are we just plain not calling them?  And where is the mention
> of
> >> our QB coach?  Why have we heard nothing about him or in regards to him?
> >> Is he all of a sudden a bad coach?  I haven't heard his name mention
> since
> >> Tebow left.  Wasn't Dan Mullen also our QB coach?
> >>
> >> Or, just maybe, this offensive line, supposedly the strength of the team,
> >> can't even figure out what to do with this offense either.  They may be
> >> ill suited for the zone blocking and reads that the first half offense
> >> relies on.  They seem to do MUCH better in the second half when Brantley
> >> starts throwing it around, when they are told to man up and block a
> person
> >> instead of an area.  Again, an area in need of much change-- similar to
> >> what Dan has done with MSU.  Take what you have, evaluate it, figure out
> >> what you do well, and then ride that horse.  29 out of 30 rushing plays.
> >> The one pass?  A shovel pass, practically a running play as well.  Dan
> >> does what you have to do to win.  He does what works.
> >>
> >> We see this week in and week out, yet no adjustment, no improvement, no
> >> change.  Its as if we (and dare I say it?) are stubborn just like SOS was
> >> when his passing game didn't work.  What did Spurrier do when you
> squashed
> >> his passing?  He continued to throw it, bound and determined to show the
> >> world a thing or two and that it will work.  Well, by then, it didn't...
> >> and we would lose.  I see that all over again, except this time it is
> this
> >> bastardization of the spread offense.  When you stop our 3 or 4 plays,
> >> that we call 10 times each a game, we don't seem to make any changes
> until
> >> the second half.
> >>
> >> So what happens in the second half?  We let Brantley be Brantley!  We
> open
> >> it up a little, we hit the quick routes DOWNFIELD and not behind the LOS.
> >> We throw the out patterns, we mix it up, and we become more effective.
> >>
> >> Sure, the defense has relaxed.  They already know they have us exactly
> >> where they want us.  They know we are not explosive and are no longer a
> >> quick strike offense, so maybe they do drop back into a soft zone.  But
> in
> >> the past 3 games, the offensive output, cohesiveness, drive sustaining
> >> plays have been there!!!  We have converted the third downs, and even
> >> teams protecting a lead want to stop those.
> >>
> >> So why do we NOT do this going into the first half?  Why not setup the
> run
> >> by passing?  Make them defend that middle zone, soften the corners up,
> and
> >> force the defense to attack downfield in a pass rush which would create
> >> running lanes when we do hand it off.  Instead, the defense holds the
> >> line, blitzes at will from the ends and pummels our backs and quarter
> >> back.  Yet, we do nothing til halftime to adjust?
> >>
> >> So what is the difference between Dan and no Dan?  Effectiveness.
> Period.
> >>  MSU came out with a game plan that worked.  We did not.  They scored ALL
> >> of their points in the first quarter and then rode that game plan for an
> >> entire 60 minutes and won.  Dan did what they had to do to win.
> >>
> >> We came out with the same offense that hasn't worked in weeks.  We beat
> >> our head against that wall for 30 minutes.  We made half time
> adjustments,
> >> and we moved the ball much more effectively just like in the Bama and LSU
> >> games.  Three games, all identical, and all with the same results.  Those
> >> coaches did what they had to do to win.
> >>
> >> I would love for the Gators come out and throw in the first have like we
> >> have been forced to do in the second half.  But, if we CHOSE to throw in
> >> the first half, we set the tempo and we control the defense.  By sticking
> >> to this same ol' mockery of the spread, we are playing right into the
> >> defense's game plan.  We are NOT doing what we have to do to win.  Its as
> >> if we are trying to prove that this can and will work, results be damned!
> >> You don't look at the Bama, LSU, and MSU defense and think we are going
> to
> >> run at them.  We didn't change.  Dan would have.
> >>
> >> We must change.  We must adapt.  And it must not happen during the
> >> halftime speeches.
> >>
> >> Do SOMETHING!
> >>
> >> --
> >> GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
> >> 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
> >> 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
> >> 2008 National Football Champions |
> >> Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel
> >> (1996),
> >> Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
> >
> > --
> > GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
> > 1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
> > 2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
> > 2008 National Football Champions   |
> > Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel
> (1996),
> > Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
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> GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
> 1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
> 2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
> 2008 National Football Champions   |   
> Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
> Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
> 
> -- 
> GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
> 1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
> 2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
> 2008 National Football Champions   |   
> Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
> Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
> -- 
> GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
> 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
> 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
> 2008 National Football Champions | 
> Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
> Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

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