Hi Prashant,
sorry for replying from a different id .... 1. We all have the right to highlight the problems and be critical ... but when it comes to finding an effective solution to eliminate the problems , most of us generally fall short ... 2. Let's not get into what rights A or B country has got ... I think our activists have for now .. sufficient legal and social comprehension about the issues. They have showed sufficient competency in convincing the DHC ... 3. In case, you or anyone else feels, they are not sufficiently competent, you are free to provide an evidence of your competency ... by suggesting a constructive plan ... 4. A point to ponder .... how many people can one get out on the streets at one point of time ? .... If you can even get one million .... that is probably around one percent of lgbt population ... job is done ... If not one million, still how many ?? regards, ________________________________ fFrom: Prashant <p...@yahoo.com> To: gaybom...@yahoogroups.com; bombay-d...@yahoogroups.com; gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com; khush-l...@yahoogroups.com; lgbt-in...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 9 February, 2010 11:08:47 AM Subject: [GB] (Q&A) Delhi High Court’s verdict on IPC-377 "Sanjay Thakur" <sanjay...@gmail. com> has sent the following message. "shishir thadani" <shishirthadani@ att.net> has supported him. 1. AS A PART OF "STRATEGY" IN FIGHTING FOR GAY RIGHTS ... THERE IS SOME SKEPTICISM INVOLVED AND STEPS ARE TAKEN AFTER BUILDING A SORT OF CONSENSUS OR A MAJORITY OPINION ... 2. ONE CAN'T LOOK AT THE SITUATION IDEALLY ... AND THAT WOULD BE GETTING ALL THE RELEVANT GAY RIGHTS OVERNIGHT ... WHICH IS IMPOSSIBLE, AS IS EVIDENT IN VIEW OF THE OPPOSITION FROM VARIOUS INFLUENTIAL QUARTERS AGAINST THE DHC JUDGEMENT. 3. IT'S AN UPHILL BATTLE ALL ARE FIGHTING, ... AND ONE HAS TO BREAK THE LARGER MOVEMENT INTO SMALL STEPS ... I STRONGLY BELIEVE, " THOUGH WE ARE NOT THERE, WE ARE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, SLOWLY BUT SURELY, WITH THE CURRENT "STRATEGY" IN PLACE" " WE WILL CERTAINLY BE MUCH "BETTER OFF" IN 3 TO 5 YEARS TIME IN TERMS OF OUR RIGHTS. I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION HERE, WE WILL NOT GET ALL WE WANT IN THE SAID PERIOD ... BUT WE WILL CERTAINLY HAVE MUCH MORE THAN WHAT WE HAVE NOW" Reply: So, we have finally reached the consensus. Waiting till our masters are pleased to give us what is due to us is the only way (ONE CAN'T LOOK AT THE SITUATION IDEALLY) and passing and elapsing time (3 TO 5 YEARS) is the only hope for us. There is no use putting our claim to something we deserve till we see that the atmosphere is right. The talk of democracy and constitution is too tall and fundamental rights are farce. DHC gave us only that much which the majority allowed (GETTING ALL THE RELEVANT GAY RIGHTS OVERNIGHT IS IMPOSSIBLE) and only when it saw that there was a “SORT OF CONSENSUS OR A MAJORITY OPINION” in support of its verdict. They learnt nothing from the judiciary of Nepal, a very small and insignificant country on the world map. The DHC verdict, thus, does not deserve the praise it is getting. Full stop. These days they are showing an ad on TV in which they show several people each uttering a word from the preamble to Indian constitution in sequence. The attempt is to show how sacred the constitution is and to glorify it. I feel deep pain and anger when I see that ad. I immediately change the channel and do not let the ad to continue even for the next fraction of a second. Indian hypocrisy is perturbing. Can we do something about it? Can we somehow tell our judiciary that their performance till now has been dismal unmatched with the stature we have given to them? How? No newspaper will publish this and we cannot discuss it with the judiciary. We get a chance to discuss something with the judiciary only when we file a court case. Can we file a court case highlighting this aspect? Also, can we sue the judiciary since they told a lie while saying that the petition did not have a locus standi? Any lawyers on these forums? Prashant ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - Matrimonials for Same-sex Marriages (http://users1. jabry.com/ pg211/index. asp) Matrimonials for Bisexuals (http://users1. jabry.com/ pg211/bi/ index.asp) Your Mail works best with the New Yahoo Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! http://downloads. yahoo.com/ in/internetexplo rer/ Hi Prashant ________________________________ The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage. Your Mail works best with the New Yahoo Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! http://downloads.yahoo.com/in/internetexplorer/