On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 at 11:21, David Brown <david.br...@hesbynett.no> wrote:

> On 20/04/2021 08:54, Giacomo Tesio wrote:
> > Hi GCC developers,
> >
> > just to further clarify why I think the current Steering Committee is
> highly problematic,
> > I'd like you to give a look at this commit
> > message over Linux MAINTAINERS
> >
> >
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/netdev/net.git/commit/?id=4acd47644ef1e1c8f8f5bc40b7cf1c5b9bcbbc4e
> >
> > Here the relevant excerpt (but please go chech the quotation):
> >
> > "As an IBM employee, you are not allowed to use your gmail account to
> work in any way
> > on VNIC. You are not allowed to use your personal email account as a
> "hobby". You
> > are an IBM employee 100% of the time.
> > Please remove yourself completely from the maintainers file. I grant you
> a 1 time
> > exception on contributions to VNIC to make this change."
> >
> >
> > This is happened yesterday (literally).
>
> I know nothing of this case other than the link you sent.  But it seems
> to me that the complaint from IBM is that the developer used his private
> gmail address here rather than his IBM address.
>
> It is normal practice in most countries that if you are employed full
> time to do a certain type of job, then you can't do the same kind of
> work outside of the job without prior arrangement with the employer.
> That applies whether it is extra paid work, or unpaid (hobby) work.
> This is partly because it can quickly become a conflict of interests,
> and partly because you are supposed to be refreshed and ready for work
> each day and not tired out from an all-night debugging session on a
> different project.
>
> Usually employers are quite flexible about these things unless there is
> a clear conflict of interests (like working on DB2 during the day, and
> Postgresql in the evening).  Some employers prefer to keep things
> standardised and rigid.
>
> A company like IBM that is heavily involved in Linux kernel coding will
> want to keep their copyrights and attributions clear.  So if they have
> an employee that is working on this code - whether it is part of their
> day job or not - it makes sense to insist that attributions, maintainer
> contact information and copyrights all make it clear that the work is
> done by an IBM employee.  It is not only IBM's right to insist on this,
> it might also be a legal obligation.
>
> (It is quite possible that this guy's manager could have expressed
> things a bit better - we are not privy to the rest of the email or any
> other communication involved.)
>
>
> This is precisely why copyright assignment for the FSF can involve
> complicated forms and agreements from contributors' employers.
>
>
> >
> > And while this is IBM, the other US corporations with affiliations in
> > the Steering Committee are no better:
> https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc/2021-April/235777.html
> >
>
> I can't see any relevance in that post other than your "big corporations
> are completely evil because there are examples of them being bad" comments.
>
> > I can understand that some of you consider working for such corporations
> "a joy".
> > But for the rest of us, and to most people outside the US, their
> influence
> > over the leadership of GCC is a threat.
>
> Please stop claiming to speak for anyone but yourself.  You certainly do
> not speak for /me/.  I don't work for "such corporations", I am outside
> the US, but I do not see IBM or others having noticeable influence over
> gcc and thus there is no threat.
>
> David
>
I have raised my concerns directly with the FSF, and GNU, about the
behaviours and attitudes on here - I would suggest others do the same.

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