On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 10:27 AM Xinliang David Li <davi...@google.com>
wrote:

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> On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 10:16 AM Jan Hubicka <hubi...@ucw.cz> wrote:
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>> >
>> > It uses create_llvm_prof tool which is in the same git repo. The data
>> > parsing part is shared with create_gcov, but the writer is obviously
>> > different for the two tools.
>>
>> OK and what are the main differences between llvmand gcc format?
>>
>> GCC expects GCOV format, I think while LLVM uses a newly designed binary
> format.
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>
Sorry I missed your next reply.  I forgot about the details of GCC' format.

David
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>
>> Honza
>> >
>> > David
>> >
>> >
>> > > Honza
>> > > >
>> > > > David
>> > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Thoughts?
>> > > > > Martin
>> > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Having the tool third-party makes keeping the whole chain
>> working
>> > > more
>> > > > > > difficult.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Richard.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >> Thanks,
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> David
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 3:29 PM Jan Hubicka <hubi...@ucw.cz>
>> wrote:
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >>>> On 4/22/21 9:58 PM, Eugene Rozenfeld via Gcc wrote:
>> > > > > >>>>> GCC documentation for AutoFDO points to create_gcov tool
>> that
>> > > > > converts
>> > > > > >>> perf.data file into gcov format that can be consumed by gcc
>> with
>> > > > > >>> -fauto-profile (
>> > > > > https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Optimize-Options.html,
>> > > > > >>> https://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/AutoFDO/Tutorial).
>> > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>> I noticed that the source code for create_gcov has been
>> deleted
>> > > from
>> > > > > >>> https://github.com/google/autofdo on April 7. I asked about
>> that
>> > > > > change
>> > > > > >>> in that repo and got the following reply:
>> > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>
>> > > https://github.com/google/autofdo/pull/107#issuecomment-819108738
>> > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>> "Actually we didn't use create_gcov and havn't updated
>> > > create_gcov
>> > > > > for
>> > > > > >>> years, and we also didn't have enough tests to guarantee it
>> works
>> > > (It
>> > > > > was
>> > > > > >>> gcc-4.8 when we used and verified create_gcov). If you need
>> it, it
>> > > is
>> > > > > >>> welcomed to update create_gcov and add it to the respository."
>> > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>> Does this mean that AutoFDO is currently dead in gcc?
>> > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > >>>> Hello.
>> > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > >>>> Yes. I know that even basic test cases have been broken for
>> years
>> > > in
>> > > > > the
>> > > > > >>> GCC.
>> > > > > >>>> It's new to me that create_gcov was removed.
>> > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > >>>> I tend to send patch to GCC that will remove AutoFDO from
>> GCC.
>> > > > > >>>> I known Bin spent some time working on AutoFDO, has he came
>> up to
>> > > > > >>> something?
>> > > > > >>>
>> > > > > >>> The GCC side of auto-FDO is not that hard.  We have most of
>> > > > > >>> infrastructure in place, but stopping point for me was always
>> > > > > difficulty
>> > > > > >>> to get gcov-tool working.  If some maintainer steps up, I
>> think I
>> > > can
>> > > > > >>> fix GCC side.
>> > > > > >>>
>> > > > > >>> I am bit unsure how important feature it is - we have FDO that
>> > > works
>> > > > > >>> quite well for most users but I know there are some users of
>> the
>> > > LLVM
>> > > > > >>> implementation and there is potential to tie this with other
>> > > hardware
>> > > > > >>> events to asist i.e. if conversion (where one wants to know
>> how
>> > > well
>> > > > > CPU
>> > > > > >>> predicts the jump rather than just the jump probability)
>> which I
>> > > always
>> > > > > >>> found potentially interesting.
>> > > > > >>>
>> > > > > >>> Honza
>> > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > >>>> Martin
>> > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>> Thanks,
>> > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>> Eugene
>> > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > >>>
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > >
>>
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