Friends - I can't resist adding my own comments any more. Sorry.
On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 08:56:01PM +0100, Mario Klebsch wrote:
> >Anything that provides a COMPLETE package where you get everything
> >with one down load, and you just do ./configure, make, make install is
> >the world to aim for.
>
> This is what I prefer, too. Merging all the geda stuff into a singe tar
> file with a combined top leven configure script.
Here's what I want, and indeed have already, call it option 0:
apt-get install geda
In fact, I have that now. The reasons to do anything else are:
1. You don't use Debian or Ubuntu, in which case you have a
similar command based on rpm/yum/package-manager-of-the-month.
2. You don't use Debian, Ubuntu, SuSE, FC, gentoo, or any other
mainstream and supported operating system. In that case you
have a deeper problem, one that is outside the scope of gEDA.
3. You're a developer, in which case you pull stuff out of CVS.
4. You want the simple case (options 0 or 1), but the {apt,rpm,...}
package maintainers are behind the times, and you've heard
that more recent copies have fixed a bug that you've hit.
If we discuss packaging less and focus on the software itself,
the importance of option 4 will diminish with time, and everybody
is taken care of.
I purposefully leave those shackled to Microsoft out of the above
picture. Presumably there is a difference of opinion around here
as to whether they should be categorized under option 1 or 2 above.
Fortunately, as long as someone in the believes-in-option-1 camp
is willing to act on that notion, Microsoft users and Unix bigots
can happily ignore each other.
The only discussion left is back where we started: the developers
need to negotiate with the package maintainers what library
versions are reasonable to require. If nothing else, there
should be a wiki table around listing what versions of gEDA
are available on what operating systems, and the library versions
are part of that equation.
People brought up RH7.[23]. Boggle. Those machines must be
fully isolated (air gap) from the Internet, right? Or do they
run in VMware?
- Larry
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