On 17/10/2017 14:40, Qin Wu wrote: ... >> The same is applied to jitter. As clarified in the introduction, the >> definition of 'jitter' is used to monitor reachability of destinations, >> troubleshoot failures, monitor performance. > > Yes, but what *is* jitter physically? There is no scientific definition of > 'jitter' in the IETF. Do you mean IPDV as defined in RFC3393 or something > else? > > [Qin]:Jitter is packet jitter (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jitter). You are > right, one typical example of packet jitter is IPDV defined in RFC3393, but > we don't want to limit it to IPDV, we also allow support other protocol and > other measurement methodology, > e.g., we could also consider to use MAPDV2 defined in [ITU-T G.1020], what > protocol is used and what methodology is used can be indicated by the > parameter 'protocol-id' parameter and 'protocol-id-meta-data' in this model.
I don't see how this specification can be used for interoperable implementations unless you define a specific meaning of 'jitter'. If the network management system assumes RFC3393 but half the routers in the network implement G.1020, there is no interoperability. > I assume that by 'delay' you mean RFC7679 rather than RFC2681, but that seems > straightforward, and so do the other metrics used in > session-packet-statistics and session-error-statistics. > > [Qin]: Correct, it is one way delay instead of two way delay. Again - it is useful to specify one-way delay, for interoperability. (Whether the routers can measure one-way delay is another question; they might be forced to measure RTT and assume delay = RTT/2 .) Regards Brian _______________________________________________ Gen-art mailing list Gen-art@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/gen-art