On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Risker <risker...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Michael, I have to say that I find your comment offensive.  NOBODY expects
> to be denigrated on Wikipedia, and being "privileged" is no excuse for
> doing so.  This is EXACTLY the kind of behaviour this list was created to
> try to modify.
>
> Risker/Anne
>
>
How so? I would have said the same thing, for the same reason, if the
author had been male.  The evidence is that a lot of what she complains
about is the EXACT SAME THING that happens to anybody who comes into
Wikipedia and
attacks editors: some morons act like morons, and a few other cynics start
looking to see whether the complainant's hands are clean. Sadly, our morons
acted like sexist morons, thus confirming all the worst assumptions of
those who don't know how a wiki works. That doesn't give her a free pass
from the same constant attention to which all of us, editors and outside
critics alike, are subject.

And damned if I'll be told to shut up when I point out that an ordinary
working writer would be less likely to get an op-ed in the N.Y. Times than
one of the heirs to a profitable publishing company which might easily be
viewed as an obvious purchaser of the moribund N.Y. Times company, for what
amounts to Hachette's pocket change.

But of course, it's vulgar (meaning "of the common people") to point out
when class privilege takes place. How offensive of me.

Now could we go back to working on substantive matters instead of slanging
at each other?

-- 
Michael J. "Orange Mike" Lowrey
vulgar common peasant with dirt farmers in his close family

"When I get a little money I buy books; and if any is left, I buy food and
clothes."
     --  Desiderius Erasmus
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