On 16 February 2018 at 16:53, Henk P. Penning <penn...@uu.nl> wrote: > On Thu, 15 Feb 2018, sebb wrote: > >> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2018 22:22:12 +0100 >> From: sebb <seb...@gmail.com> >> To: general@attic.apache.org >> Subject: Redirects for attic project download directories >> >> The original thread got derailed, so here is what I think the issue is. >> >> When a project is moved to the attic, its website is updated to show a >> banner that the project has been retired, with a link to the attic. >> >> Also, its release files on www.apache.org/dist are removed, and >> replaced with an .htaccess redirect to an Attic page with summary >> details of the project. >> >> e.g. >> http://www.apache.org/dist/harmony >> redirects to >> http://attic.apache.org/projects/harmony.html >> >> Whilst this redirect works, and is simple to administer, it means >> there are many directories under www.apache.org/dist/ which only >> contain an .htaccess file, and scripts may have to be aware of which >> directories correspond to active projects. >> >> It would be useful to be able to tidy this up. > > > Agree ; that's a good summary. > >> However it is important that the redirects are kept as there are >> likely to be links to the download location in lots of places. We >> should not break URLs unnecessarily. >> >> Note that the redirects also work on mirror links as well as on the ASF >> hosts. >> This behaviour should be preserved as historical links will generally >> use the dynamic mirror system. >> For example the harmony download page [1] points to the mirrors; >> externally preserved links are likely to do so as well. >> >> Removing the .htaccess files and their parent directories will break >> all the links, so IMO that is not an option. > > > [ humbedooh == Daniel Gruno ; infra ; initial(?) author of closer.lua > ; closer.lua == the script that projects use on their (download) > pages to link to "the mirrors" > ; GHOST == a retire project ; ASF GHOSTs live in the Attic :-) > ] > > Links to mirrors are typically generated by closer.lua ; > we can make closer.lua attic-aware (says humbedooh :-). > When closer.lua encounters a target in an atticked project, > it can redirect to attic.a.o.
Good idea as it will stop further generation of useless URLs. > Are there any important links to specific files on specific mirrors ? I don't understand what you mean by that. > That leaves "www.apache.org/dist/GHOST". > > It would be easy (again, says humbedooh) to configure www.apache.org > with a few (fixed number of) Rewrite rules like (pseudo-code) : > > # redirect dist/GHOST to attic.a.o/.../GHOST.hmtl > <Directory dist> > RewriteCondition "file path in an atticked dir" > RewriteRule .* "Redirect to attic.a.o" > </Directory> AFAICT that will only work for links that target the ASF hosts directly. Such redirects are anyway not a problem. > Now, suppose we create dist/attic/ghosts/ > > https:// dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/attic/ghosts/ > > -- on retirement, infra svn moves dist/GHOST/ to dist/attic/ghosts/ ; > Pmc Attic can cleanup what was formerly dist/GHOST/ Unless the archive synch job is changed to ignore files under dist/attic/ghosts this will result in creating copies of the release artifacts on archive.a.o > -- closer.lua can check the presence of dist/attic/ghosts/PROJ > -- the RewriteRules idem > > I think this would tidy up /dist/ while keeping the proper Redirects. It won't keep the redirects on the 3rd party mirrors. Such URLs may well have been stored elsewhere. For example [1] points to (e.g.) http://mirror.org/apache/harmony/milestones/5.0/M15/apache-harmony-5.0-jre-r991518-windows-x86-snapshot.zip At present such a URL will redirect back to the attic (try it!) That is the functionality which I think is important to preserve. AFAICT it's trivial to preserve the redirects on the ASF hosts. This is because we know the path structure is /dist/project. That is not true for 3rd party mirrors which have a variety of path prefixes. Since the .htaccess file is in the top-level project directory it only gets invoked for paths that match the attic'ed project. I don't see how dist/attic/ghosts would help with the redirects. >> [1] http://harmony.apache.org/download.cgi > > > Regards, > > Henk Penning > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ _ > Henk P. Penning, ICT-beta R Uithof MG-403 _/ \_ > Faculty of Science, Utrecht University T +31 30 253 4106 / \_/ \ > Leuvenlaan 4, 3584CE Utrecht, NL F +31 30 253 4553 \_/ \_/ > http://www.staff.science.uu.nl/~penni101/ M penn...@uu.nl \_/
