On Sat, 17 Feb 2018, sebb wrote:
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2018 19:45:56 +0100
From: sebb <seb...@gmail.com>
To: general@attic.apache.org
Subject: Re: Redirects for attic project download directories
On 16 February 2018 at 16:53, Henk P. Penning <penn...@uu.nl> wrote:
On Thu, 15 Feb 2018, sebb wrote:
It would be useful to be able to tidy this up.
Links to mirrors are typically generated by closer.lua ;
we can make closer.lua attic-aware (says humbedooh :-).
When closer.lua encounters a target in an atticked project,
it can redirect to attic.a.o.
Good idea as it will stop further generation of useless URLs.
This now in test on mirror-vm ; try
https://mirror-vm.apache.org/dyn/dev_closer.lua/
https://mirror-vm.apache.org/dyn/dev_closer.lua/beehive/blib/blob
Aside: dev_closer.lua is also 'dist' and 'archive' aware ; try
https://mirror-vm.apache.org/dyn/dev_closer.lua/FOO/BAR
https://mirror-vm.apache.org/dyn/dev_closer.lua/httpd/apache_1.3.0.tar.Z
Now, suppose we create dist/attic/ghosts/
https:// dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/attic/ghosts/
-- on retirement, infra svn moves dist/GHOST/ to dist/attic/ghosts/ ;
Pmc Attic can cleanup what was formerly dist/GHOST/
Unless the archive synch job is changed to ignore files under
dist/attic/ghosts this will result in creating copies of the release
artifacts on archive.a.o
That's a detail ; the point is that /we/ can cleanup ;
less work for infra ; more control for us.
-- closer.lua can check the presence of dist/attic/ghosts/PROJ
-- the RewriteRules idem
I think this would tidy up /dist/ while keeping the proper Redirects.
It won't keep the redirects on the 3rd party mirrors.
Such URLs may well have been stored elsewhere.
For example [1] points to (e.g.)
http://mirror.org/apache/harmony/milestones/5.0/M15/apache-harmony-5.0-jre-r991518-windows-x86-snapshot.zip
At present such a URL will redirect back to the attic (try it!)
That is the functionality which I think is important to preserve.
When the new closer.lua is in place, [1] will point directly
to attic.a.o/projects/harmony.html ;
Are there any other examples of important pages ?
That is not true for 3rd party mirrors ...
Any link to a specific file on a specific mirror will stop working
sooner or later ; mirrors disappear and /dist/ changes.
LIVE-link : http://some.mirror.org/.../httpd/some-old-version.gz
GHOST-link : http://some.mirror.org/.../beehive/some-old-version.gz
The LIVE-link gives a 404 ; the GHOST-link gives a redirect.
Why the difference?
On retirement we remove GHOSTS from committee-info.txt and
navigation [http://www.apache.org/#projects-list], etc.
In short, we have pointers to GHOSTs, but not among the living ;
and that should also be the case for /dist/ (and the mirrors).
[1] http://harmony.apache.org/download.cgi
Groeten,
HPP
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