--- Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So, essentially you are saying it's acceptable to
> choose the lesser of two
> evils? Not that I think Apple is evil, but I think
> this makes for a good
> point.
Sure, especially when you weigh the relative "evils"
that are Apple and Micro$oft:
Apple:
- sued some developers for creating an "Aqua"-based
theme for Xfree86 in violation of Apple's copyright.
Micro$oft:
- Jim Allchin, VP of Operating Systems, claims: "The
GPL is un-American."
- Proposes that Linux and other open source based
operating systems are inherently less secure because
hackers can look at the source code.
- "Embraces and extends" Kerberos on Win2K so that it
is incompatible with Kerberos implementations on other
operating systems.
- Microsoft Tech Support
- The DMCA
- The BSOD
- Bill Gates gives diabolism workshops in Hell to
Satan and the major heirarchy of demons. Wins the
coveted "Really Mean Guy" medal.
- Steve Ballmer's ego.
- Bill Gates whiney voice.
- "Micro$oft Bob"
- etc, etc, etc.
Ok, maybe M$ Bob wasn't that bad, and sure, I'm
leaving out stuff that Apple and Steve Jobs pulled,
but Wozinak makes up for a hell of a lot of mistakes
on Apple's part. I mean the guy is like a geek saint
or something. Not like that wackass nutcase RMS ("St.
IGNUtius" my aft deck). He spooks me. He looks too
much like Rasputin. Whereas Woz looks like a big fuzzy
Barney the Dinosaur, except skin colored. And hairier.
Um.... what was your question?
John
ps: Seriously, ABM ("Anything But Microsoft").
Microsoft is a monopoly. It was decided and then
upheld in court. Having one corporation's closed
operating system on the majority of computers on the
planet is not a recipe for innovation. It is a recipe
for fewer choices.
Let me present a metaphor: Let's say operating systems
are like political parties. When you have a couple of
parties, you sometimes have to choose the lesser of
two evils. When you have three or more parties with
fairly equal numbers of members, you have many choices
that can suit the individual's political ideas and
tastes. When you have just one party in power, what is
that called?
Who the hell is Allchin to call open source
un-American?
Americans have been sharing their ideas and work for a
long time before Micro$oft came along. Can you imagine
the Quakers copyrighting their beautifully crafted
chairs? No, the idea is ludricous, because they didn't
_need_ to protect their chairs. Anybody was welcome to
copy their design. But if you didn't have the skills
or attention to detail that the Quakers had, you ended
up with a chair that just didn't last. The Quakers
competed, literally, on the strength of the product.
Ok, now I'm done ranting for the night.
John
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Behalf Of John Hebert
> > Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 6:10 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [brluglist] Any LinuxPPC/OSX/BSD/Mac
> geeks out there?
> >
> >
> > In light of what M$ has done/said towards the Open
> > Source community, I can forgive Apple for wanting
> to
> > sue ppl for Aqua-based themes. I'm not happy about
> it,
> > but I see M$ as being a much bigger threat to open
> > source.
> >
> > John Hebert
> >
> > --- Tim Fournet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > I'm hoping to generate more interest in Mac
> OSX in
> > > the
> > > > BRLUG, since it is UNIX at its core. The move
> by
> > > Apple
> > > > to an open source based kernel was one of the
> > > biggest
> > > > events in the last few years to support the
> open
> > > > source movement. I am very surprised that
> there
> > > hasn't
> > > > been more excitement about it in the open
> source
> > > > community. The PowerPC chip is very fast for
> the
> > > > price: I paid $100 for the PowerMac 8500
> (128MB
> > > RAM,
> > > > 8GB ext drive) and monitor. I plan to make it
> a
> > > > development server running either Linux for
> PPC or
> > > > OSX.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Although they've based their OS on an Open
> Source
> > > kernel, Apple has been
> > > pretty good at alienating the Open Source
> community
> > > since (and before)
> > > the release of OS X. Threats to sue creators of
> OS
> > > X-like XFree86 themes
> > > is the biggest example I can think of now. I've
> also
> > > heard reported that
> > > Apple has made their UNIX 'easy' by setting a
> lot of
> > > binaries setuid
> > > root. Maybe the benefits the OSS community can
> > > receive by this is by
> > > getting more users to eventually move to a Free
> OS.
> > >
> > > -Tim
> > >
> > >
> > >
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