At 06:46 PM 6/13/2003 -0500, you wrote:

>On 2003.06.13 16:18 Dustin Puryear wrote:
> > At 04:38 PM 6/13/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> >
> > So you want to keep the Internet wide open, but you don't want it to be
> > easy for people to send spam. Got it. :)
>
>Got what, a straw man?  I never said that.  I think it should be easy for 
>people to send mail.  Breaking up the network will destroy it's value and 
>punish everyone for the actions of a guilty few.

I don't get the straw man reference to be honest. Anyway, yes, in the past 
you (and everyone else here, myself included) have complained about spam. A 
common way to reduce the amount of incoming spam you have to deal with is 
to not allow accept mail directly from a dial-up, DSL, or modem user. There 
is going to be a compromise between how easily anyone on the Internet can 
send mail, and the wish of my networks to reduce the amount of their 
incoming spam.

I don't see what is so hard about relaying your mail through Cox.

>What it boils down to is that they are too cheap, lazy or scared of 
>Microshaft to do anything but block port 25 outbound.   Cox can easily and 
>instantly terminate their contract with someone who spams.  They can get 
>in touch with them and warn them

I was specifically addressing the issue that was raised about some mail 
servers not accepting mail from systems connected via cable, DSL, or dial-up.


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Puryear Information Technology
Windows, UNIX, and IT Consulting
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