Quake or Wolfenstein?

Jim

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Will Lowe
> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 9:22 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [brlug-general] free, closed and practical software.
> 
> 
> Dustin,
> It's interesting that you mention Quake. As I understand it 
> Quake started out as a game written by the Carmack brothers 
> because they liked it. In other words for their own and their 
> friends use. Others liked it so they offered it as shareware 
> for a while before it exploded and they started Id software 
> to sell it. But I don't think that their original focus in 
> writing it was to make money. At some point that obviously 
> became a thought.
> 
> I think that a lot of software starts out as a labor of love 
> then suddenly they or someone else says "hey we could sell 
> this!" Also obviously just as many others go the philanthropic route.
> 
> Will Lowe
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dustin Puryear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 9:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [brlug-general] free, closed and practical software.
> 
> 
> > At 01:46 PM 7/9/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> > >OK, now I'm warmed up to the subject.
> > >
> > >Free software developers support themselves.  They might 
> do this by 
> > >working directly for a company that wants an application, 
> they might
> need
> > >the software to help with unrelated tasks or they might 
> cut grass and 
> > >develop for fun.  People who are not in a stable financial 
> situation 
> > >can not commit to projects of any sort.  The vast 
> quantities of free 
> > >software available shows that many people are being 
> supported one way 
> > >or another.  None of us is going to join the NBA but some 
> of us play 
> > >basketball and public parks have courts anyway.
> >
> > This is all well and good, but it doesn't address my question. :)
> >
> > >Free software does a better job of making software.  
> Dustin divided 
> > >software into two groups, one that everyone wants and 
> another that's 
> > >specific to a single company or individual.  GDB is an 
> example of a 
> > >program that everyone can use.  It has
> >
> > This is incorrect. My question pertains to software that is not 
> > available but has a market. For example, let's assume that 
> no game of 
> > Quake's
> caliber
> > had been created yet. Next, Joe User wants to play the 
> game. Here are 
> > his
> > options:
> >
> > 1. He can develop the game himself.
> > 2. He can wait for someone else to do it.
> > 3. He can pay a developer to do it.
> >
> > If he waits on someone else to do it then he is waiting on 
> one of two
> groups:
> >
> > 1. Open source developers that feel like doing it.
> > 2. Commercial developers that will make money from doing it.
> >
> > Of the two, capitalism tells us that the commercial 
> developer is more 
> > likely to jump on the ball. Capitalism has this great way 
> of finding 
> > solutions for a market need. It's simple history, and I 
> have a lot of 
> > respect for it. Of course, I like the first option of the 
> open source 
> > developer doing it, but what if nobody feels like doing it? Or more
> likely,
> > what if nobody that *has the skills* feels like doing it?
> >
> > If this is the case then let's assume that Joe User, who 
> prefers open 
> > source, pays an open source developer for this. Joe User then bears 
> > the total cost even though the open source developer might 
> know there 
> > is a market for the software. The developer has to pay rent, and he 
> > can't
> resell
> > his program to spread out the cost.
> >
> > Is there a solution to this dilemma?
> >
> > >more than sixty developers and the result is an excellent piece of 
> > >software.  Is there any commercial company that can devote those 
> > >kinds or resources to a debugger?  In the other case, of specific 
> > >application, commercial software falls down again.
> >
> > Are you suggesting that there isn't an existing commercial 
> market for 
> > debuggers?
> >
> >
> > ---
> > Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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