Right Will.  I'd like to get rid of the UPS all together.  It's just taking 12V 
converting it to 120V and then feeding an adaptor that drops it back to the 12V 
range again ... which is (a) inefficient, and (b) heats the house.

So I'd like to be able to run enough of the network off 12V that in a power cut 
I can stay connected ... Sure, the CO will eventually go down after a day or so 
- but I'd guess that the CO will probably be back up before the house power 
comes back.

I'm thinking a 12V car battery in the network closet with a trickle charger for 
normal use and a solar charger (or simply charge it from the lighter socket as 
I drive around looking for gas) for the week after the storm.

My weak link right now is using a PC for the firewall - it sucks too much power 
so I'm looking at something smaller and seeing several little SBCs that run of 
12V.

I'd rather not use a generator because the damn things are noisy (and I'd 
probably scew the maintenance anyway).  The heat doesn't bother me - I can live 
without AC but I do want to know what's going on in the world and get the to 
the NWS sites.

Edmund Cramp
-- 
On the plus side ... The average generator puts out enough carbon monoxide that 
it keeps the mosquitoes away!


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of willhill
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 11:14 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Running a network on 12V

Nice, but I think he's looking to skip the DC to AC conversion and just go DC 
to DC.  Something like a trawling motor battery and voltage regulators for DC 
to DC conversion.  This would be more efficient.  

Thinkpads can run off 12V.  A car battery will work but you want something to 
clean it if you use a running vehicle.  My brother is very pleased with the 
regulator IBM makes for this.  

For other devices, you can probably get away with voltage regulators like 7805, 
etc.  They provide 1 AMP each and I've used them in parallel - YMMV, use proper 
heat sinks, support circuit, consult the specs and your nearest EE.  

Happy hacking.

Over the outage, someone lent me a generator.  I used it to power my UPS and 
the UPS to run equipment.  Laptop life was the limiting factor without the 
generator.  The cable modem and wifi access point ran for hours on the UPS.  

Overall, I'm glad the power is back.  The rest of this was a pain.

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