Dear Ian,
I think it's rather better than that. If I remember right, Dave Ziemann who served on the standards committee told me that I-APL was the only APL interpreter that ever fully conformed to the standard.

BTW I still have stocks of all the books you mention. I think Gary Helzer's 'Encyclopedia of APL' is outstanding.

Here is the guts of the order form you mentioned, with the things that are no longer available or irrelevant removed.
I don't know whether I'd be able to find everything listed!
Anthony Camacho

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I-APL Ltd order form 31 March 1997

11 Auburn Road

Redland

Bristol Avon

BS6 6LS

Disks are 360K PC disks except where specified. Other versions to special order.

Please supply:[ Prices are out of date]



Part Item No. of copies Price £ Total

I-APL and related Products

PC12 PC clone/Nimbus 360K disk & manual ___ £8.00 ______

AT12 PC clone/Nimbus 720K 3.5" disk & manual ___ £8.00 ______

BBC12 BBC 80T disk for Master (& B with 32K sideways RAM) & manual ___ £8.00 ______

A12 Archimedes disk and manual ___ £8.00 ______

Mac12 Write with £14 to: Ian Clark

ST12 Atari ST 3.5" disk and manual ___ £8.00 ______

M2 I-APL Manual for PC clones, BBC Master?B & Archimedes ___ £3.00 ______

T3 Tutorial by Thomson & Alvord (45pp) ___ £3.00 ______

E4 Encyclopedia by Helzer (228pp) ___ £6.00 ______

S5 APL in Social Studies by Traberman (36pp) ___ £3.00 ______

Disks

FEMC Disk of Functions for Thomson's book by F Espinasse ___ £5.00 ______

FEK12 Maths kits 1 and 2 by Francis Espinasse ___ £5.00 ______

FEK34 Maths kits 3 and 4 by Francis Espinasse ___ £5.00 ______

MK Morten Kromberg's GRAF workspaces ___ £5.00 ______

ZVJ Zdenek V Jizba's Lessons workspaces ___ £5.00 ______

FINN FinnAPL workspaces ___ £5.00 ______

MANU APL*PLUS/PC Spec. Edn. Freeware (1.44M 3.5") ___ £5.00 ______

DBM7 Disk (720K 3.5") of Prof D B McIntyre's writings on J version 7 ___ £5.00 ______

DBM2 Disk (720K 3.5")of Prof D B McIntyre's writings on J release 2 ___ £5.00 ______

J2SW Disk (1.44M 3.5") of J2 shareware for PC ___ £5.00 ______

TM Tangible Math in J by K E Iverson ___ £8.00 ______

PIJTM Programming in J with Tangible Math by Kenneth E. Iverson ___ £20.00 ______

ARI Arithmetic (118pp) by K E Iverson ___ £20.00 ______

IJ Introduction to J (47pp) by K E Iverson ___ £20.00 ______

CAL Calculus (130pp in J) by K E Iverson ___ £20.00 ______

APL Press Books

AAT Algebra: an Algorithmic Treatment & Solutions, Iverson ___ £10.00 ______

EA Elementary Analysis by K Iverson (218pp) ___ £6.00 ______

CNK Calculus in a New Key by D Orth (286pp) ___ £5.00 ______

RCT Resistive Circuit Theory by R Spence (qto 279pp) ___ £8.00 ______

TEY APL Quote-Quad: The Early Years (qto 465) ___ £11.00 ______

SBA A Source Book in APL (qto 140pp) ___ £7.00 ______

AI APL and Insight by Berry et al. (89pp) ___ £4.00 ______

FCP The Four Cube Problem by McDonnell (qto 27pp) ___ £4.00 ______

SM Star Map by Berry & Thorstensen (41pp) ___ £3.00 ______

PA Probability in APL by L Alvord (120pp) ___ £5.00 ______

IA Introduction to APL by K E Iverson 1984 (110pp) ___ £6.00 ______

AL APL Language Reference for foregoing (128pp) ___ £6.00 ______

IAT Introducing APL to Teachers (25pp) by Iverson ___ £3.00 ______

AE APL in Exposition by K E Iverson (61pp) ___ £3.00 ______



----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Clark" <[email protected]>
To: "General forum" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 3:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Jgeneral] APL Chronology


@Anthony - didn't realise you were following this list. Is I-APL Ltd still
in business?

I-APL and its associated products got shop-windowed regularly in Vector's
"APL Product Guide" until this was discontinued. Thereafter it dropped off
people's radar.

Maybe the I-APL interpreter itself is only of historical interest, but the
books produced to accompany it, by Thompson, Alvord, Helzer and others were
IMO truly outstanding. It's a shame if they're lost to the educational
world. The interpreter itself fulfilled (fulfils?) a key role in validating the examples they contain. A sort of "standard candle", even if you'd never
use it for lighting the house.

Ian


On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Anthony Camacho <[email protected]>wrote:

I'm very grateful, Ian, for your help in adding I-APL dates to the
Chronology.

I-APL was the second APL interpreter that Paul Chapman wrote. The first
was VIZ::APL which ran on ZX80 processors. I bought a Nascom Gemini to be
able to run it.

I-APL/PC is still available if anyone wants it. It will run in a command
window on a PC but, because it was written for 8-bit addressing the maximum
workspace is 32K. Paul did do a version with 16-bit addressing to take
advantage of the memory of the Archimedes, but I don't have a copy of the
Archimedes port or of the interpreter in its intermediate language (DE -
Paul called it 'development environment' and said he'd originally called it
'development environment language' but changed the name when he found he
was unaccountably losing files!) I'm sure there was a 16-bit version which
ran on the PC, but I don't have a copy.

After the second version of I-APL was issued no further bugs have ever
been reported. I think that is a remarkable achievement.
Anthony Camacho

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Clark" <[email protected]>
To: "General forum" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Jgeneral] APL Chronology



an interesting document in itself that I ought to upload it to the J wiki.


As promised:

http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/Essays/history_of_iapl


On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Ian Clark <[email protected]> wrote:

 > [1991] IAPL/Mac, an ultra-portable APL interpreter written by Paul
Chapman, released

No, the name of the portable interpreter was I-APL.

IAPL/Mac was just one of many ports, to a wide range of platforms. For a
list of ports which existed in any given year, indeed for the current
version of every APL interpreter known to the British APL Association,
see
the APL Product Guide, published in every issue of Vector from its
inception in May 1984. This valuable reference was only discontinued in
2008.

The I-APL project was founded by a committee consisting of Ed Cherlin,
Anthony Camacho, Norman Thomson, Howard Peelle and Dave Ziemann. The
committee raised donations to commission Paul Chapman to produce I-APL.
All
ports were to be released as freeware for educational use. Prior to
that, I
believe there was no APL interpreter that cost less than $450, which
limited its use in schools. Correction: killed APL as far as schools were
concerned and ensured nobody entered their first job knowing how to use
it.
In marked contrast virtually everyone leaving school (in the UK) had
written simple programs in BASIC. I-APL's enduring legacy was to
encourage
major vendors to release low-cost or free educational versions of their
interpreters: generally a back-release.

I-APL fitted into 32K (sic!) but needed a "p-code machine" to run the
implementation language: DE. The task of a "porter" was to write the DE
interpreter for the machine of his or her choice. Simple enough -- if you
knew the platform intimately and could code in ASM.

Paul finished I-APL and released it to volunteer porters (including
myself) in 1987. The first port was to the IBM PC, released in January
1988. Effectively it was "open source", though the concept is a recent
one.
But of course free open source software was IBM policy prior to 1969,
when
the US govt forced it to charge for software by a consent decree --
 thereby
creating the multi-trillion dollar software industry overnight.

I have a copy of the IAPL/Mac User Guide, dated 15/2/91. I recall the Mac
port was released before then, but lacking evidence I must accept that
date
for its release. Chapter 1 is "History and Aims of the I-APL Project" -- such an interesting document in itself that I ought to upload it to the J
wiki.

In fact I propose that every item on Devon's list gets a link to a
supporting page on the J wiki. Or, more ambitiously: Wikipedia.


On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Devon McCormick <[email protected]
>wrote:

 Hi -

I've put up a preliminary draft of the APL chronology I've assembled
with
the help of many on this forum:
http://www.sigapl.org/APLChronology.php
.<http://www.sigapl.org/APLChronology.php>

Anyone who's interested should please take a look and feel free to point
out any errors or omissions.  Also, any suggestions for presenting the
information more elegantly are also welcome.

Thanks,

Devon
--
Devon McCormick, CFA
----------------------------------------------------------------------
For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm



 ----------------------------------------------------------------------
For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm


----------------------------------------------------------------------
For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm

----------------------------------------------------------------------
For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm

----------------------------------------------------------------------
For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm

Reply via email to