William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
> Craig L Russell wrote:
> > But are you also saying that we expect him to:
> > no longer post insults regarding any topic on bileblog, or
> > no longer post insults regarding any Apache project on bileblog, or
> > no longer post insults regarding any Apache committer on bileblog, or
> > something else?
> What part of Noel's post is not clear to you? On list, on their blog,
> in the trade rags, wherever... none of that bears any distinction.
Please look again at Craig's questions. He was asking about what, not where.
And the reply is that personal attacks are what we are discussing.
I was not surprised to read that the pushback over personal attacks on bileblog
was shocking and unexpected. Consider how people learn social skills. It is
the responsibility of the community to provide corrective feedback on one's
behavior. The sheer scale of the Internet population, combined with a human
tendency to self-organize into cliques, almost ensures that anyone can attract
followers to provide inappropriate positive feedback, leading the antagonist to
a false sense of justification and entitlement. You can observe the same
behavior on any playground.
It is a bit harsh to blame someone who has never been taught any better by the
community. To date, the issue has been remote enough that many would ignore
the diatribes, or write them off as vaguely amusing tantrums. Some would be
highly offended, and a few would bother to look for the signal embedded in the
noise. But when one tries to become an active participant in a community, the
dynamic changes, and so must one's interactions with others. My point to
Mladen, and I believe the point that Jim and others have made, too, is that
this is a normal social process that can benefit both the community and the
individual.
--- Noel
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