The new text says
Only votes cast by Incubator PMC members are binding. If the vote is positive, and the contributor accepts the responsibility of a committer for the project, the contributor formally becomes an Apache committer. An Incubator PMC member should then follow the documented procedures to complete the process, and CC both the Incubator PMC and the PPMC when sending the necessary e-mails to root.
I included the redundant "Incubator" in "Incubator PMC" simply to reinforce Noel's comment that PMC means Incubator PMC.
Craig On May 29, 2007, at 8:49 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Yoav Shapira wrote:I voted +0, not having had time to review the proposed committer's contributions.+1 != +0I always thought (and the documentation at http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html) says PPMC votes are binding.It says (P), and the (P) clearly does not belong. Notice that elsewhere it properly says PPMC, with no (), and the places that are wrong were PMC to which someone added (P). Likewise "IPMC" should simply be PMC. There isonly one PMC: the Incubator PMC.I don't know how to say this more clearly. The PPMC is not a recognized entity in the ASF Bylaws. The PMC is the legal entity, and only PMC votes count in any ASF project. PPMC members should still vote, as can other members of the community, but as a legal matter, only PMC votes are binding.This is not Incubator policy, it is how the ASF works.It is the same in Jakarta, for example, where any Jakarta Committer who isn't on the PMC can vote, but only Jakarta PMC votes count. For years people didn't understand this, but please understand that Jakarta is the source of many of the wrong and bad practices in ASF projects that didn't gothrough either the HTTP Server project or the Incubator.the documentation link above is out of date.It was never "in date". It is wrong, regardless of date. --- Noel --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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