On 10/09/2008, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -1 -1 (non-binding) to the proposal.
> > I believe that allowing incubating releases to be treated as full Apache > releases diminishes the Apache brand and makes incubation disclaimers moot. > > With Maven, it is too easy to depend on a release with transitive > dependencies on incubating releases without even knowing it. When the > incubating release subsequently is abandoned, blame will be cast widely, > including Apache itself. Agreed. > Considering that dependencies on incubating releases can be resolved by > explicitly adding an incubating Maven repository into your settings, I don't > think that wide, mirrored, distribution is warranted. Agreed. > Craig > > > On Sep 9, 2008, at 11:34 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > We've had a number of long discussions about the incubating projects > > using the central Maven repository to distribute their releases. The > > current policy is that incubating releases should not go to there. The > > related discussion threads have died with no consensus but the issue > > still exists and affects many podlings. I would like to finally > > resolve the issue one way or another by calling the Incubator PMC to > > vote on the matter. > > > > In INCUBATOR-82 I have prepared a patch (also attached below) that > > changes the policy document to explicitly _allow_ extra distribution > > channels like the central Maven repository for incubating releases. > > Note that the proposed patch allows any such channels instead of > > focusing just on the Maven repository. Also, any releases must still > > be approved, comply with the disclaimer and naming rules, and be > > primarily distributed through the official > > http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ channel. > > > > Please vote on accepting or rejecting this policy change! This > > majority vote is open for a week and only votes from the Incubator PMC > > members are binding. > > > > [ ] +1 Yes, allow extra release distribution channels like the central > > Maven repository > > [ ] -1 No, keep the current policy > > > > My vote is +1 > > > > BR, > > > > Jukka Zitting > > > > Patch from > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-82: > > > > Index: site-author/incubation/Incubation_Policy.xml > > > =================================================================== > > --- site-author/incubation/Incubation_Policy.xml > (revision 692094) > > +++ site-author/incubation/Incubation_Policy.xml > (working copy) > > @@ -489,6 +489,8 @@ > > <p> > > Releases for <em>podling</em> <strong>MUST</strong> be distributed through > > > <code>http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/<em>podling</em></code>. > > +In addition, the Podling MAY choose to distribute approved releases > through > > +other channels like the central Maven repository. I'm against this proposal. However, if it is decided to proceed, I think the above paragraph needs to be expanded to specify that the release must be clearly flagged as an incubator release. > > </p> > > </section> > > <section id="Use+of+Apache+Resources"> > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Craig L Russell > Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://db.apache.org/jdo > 408 276-5638 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp! > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]