2008/10/13 Gurkan Erdogdu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Matthias,
>
> I do not know the mail adress of the Crazy Bob. I dropped information into to 
> the google-guice developer list about the OpenWebBeans proposal but I have 
> got no response so far.  I also dropped the message into the JBoss Seam  
> framework mailing list. Pete Muir from the JBoss replied with kindly message 
> that he said "You could welcome to help into the WebBeans RI effort in the 
> JBoss". But I said him,  I think that different RI from the different 
> foundations is great.

I am subscribed on this list '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' and I
haven't seen a post from you there.
Also I don't see that there was any other "WebBeans announcement".
Maybe it is worth to ask them,
if they wanna join (or not).

doing it here is fine, IMO. That's why I offered help in being a
mentor / champion.

>
> I wonder the voting is stopped in this time or how will the process continue?

Hrm, we always can revote. IMO no need to rush; Things should be cleared before
continuing the *process*

_M

>
> Thanks;
>
> Gurkan
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 6:26:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL - OpenWebBeans Project Proposal]
>
> Gurkan-
>
> have you tried to ping the Guice folks ?
>
> I wonder if they
> a) would be interested in joining this effort, here at Apache (Crazy
> Bob is an apache committer)
> b) prefer to work on the RI, at JBoss (Crazy Bob is EG member)
> c) have no steaks into the WebBeans effort
>
> -Matthias
>
> 2008/10/13 Gurkan Erdogdu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Hi,
>>
>> First of all, there are lots of places that I could propose my project, but 
>> I think that open source development with the Apache Way conveys the real 
>> Free and Professional Open Source Project with meritrocracy in action.
>>
>> This code could be part of the Geronimo project as its Web Beans container, 
>> or could be the top level project its own. I only know that there is only 
>> one effort to create RI, this is the JBoss RI  (Pete Muir is responsible for 
>> implementing, Gavin King for creating the spec) at the web side 
>> http://seamframework.org/WebBeans. And its implementation is in the early 
>> stage.
>>
>> Indeed, Apache way implementation makes different from the others, because 
>> and most importantly its developed based on the Apache Way and it also 
>> creates additions to the RI with creating add-on components that are based 
>> on the other Apache projects, such as, OpenEJB, OpenJPA, JSecurity, ActiveMQ 
>> etc, possible. Morevoer, It's always good to have multiple implementations 
>> of a spec so enterprise community benefits from the different 
>> imlpementations, and they choose the best (Like MyFaces and Sun JSF 
>> imeplemtnations.)
>>
>> I am ready for doing lots of work to this project progresses. Moreover, I 
>> get some great response from the below individuals to help this project 
>> succesfull,
>>
>> - Kevan Miller : As a mentor and partly committer
>> - Conny Lundgren : JSR-299 EG member as a committer.
>>
>> And also, I think the committer number is increased by the time.
>>
>> As I said in the beginning, I believe that open source must be transparent, 
>> and the community appreciates the heavy working to implement this spec 
>> within the Apache Foundation.
>>
>> Sincerely;
>>
>> Gurkan Erdogdu
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: J Aaron Farr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 8:13:05 AM
>> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL - OpenWebBeans Project Proposal]
>>
>> Gurkan Erdogdu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>> Hi to all;
>>>
>>> I have posted a proposal about the project, named OpenWebBeans.
>>>
>>> It is in the WIKI, its address is
>>> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenWebBeansProposal
>>
>> I have a number of questions before I can support the proposal:
>>
>> Where do you expect this code / community to end up after the
>> incubator?  Will it be part of Geronimo?  Part of MySpaces?  It's own
>> TLP?  I can say now that if the project is to stand on its own, then
>> there's a lot of work to do.
>>
>> It seems as though there are 2 or 3 other Apache licensed efforts in
>> creating a RI for JSR-299: Gavin King's work, JBoss's work and the
>> rumored Guice work.  What makes this RI effort any different?  Why
>> should the ASF support this project instead of one of the others?
>>
>> I'm concerned that there's only one listed committer.  Getting to at
>> least 3 committers is going to have to be the first order of business
>> for this podling.
>>
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