On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 10:53, Andrus Adamchik <and...@objectstyle.org> wrote: > On Nov 9, 2009, at 5:23 PM, Greg Stein wrote: >> I mean, really... how many other projects that are 9.5 years old(*) do >> we expect to see arriving here? And of those, how many *started* with >> the ideas and precepts of the Apache Software Foundation? I suspect it >> will be zero, so wasting a lot of time documenting (rather than >> recognizing) exceptions might not be very useful. > > There were a few mature projects. Not as large as SVN, but still pretty old > (say 5 years of track record) and with established community and market > position. Essentially in the same category (maybe sans the ubiquity of SVN).
Yup. I definitely know about SpamAssassin. Not sure how old that project is, but I do know they started under a different model and license (they actually had to leave some code behind because a contributor refused to relicense (ugh!!)). My point was primarily, "this is a very rare event. whether it needs little or a lot of help, large/old contributions are going to need *different* treatment." >> But I say "as appropriate". Sometimes it just doesn't make sense to >> document every possible exception. But simply to note *they can >> exist*. > > Agreed. Just that nobody else was able to get a waiver to date, and this was > likely because people coming in were intimidated into thinking they have no > other way, but follow the procedure. So unfortunately there is (and likely > will be) a difference in treatment. I guess that's a social issue, not a > procedural one (i.e. insider vs. outsider perception). Yah. I think you're very right on that. It may also be that my "Request for Waiver" concept will provide a mechanism for other podlings in the future. They may be granted, or they may be denied, but it could provide an avenue to query whether a particular procedure really should be applied in the same way for their situation. Thanks, -g --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
