On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 14:45, ant elder <ant.el...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Bernd Fondermann > <bernd.fonderm...@googlemail.com> wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 07:54, Eric Yang <ey...@yahoo-inc.com> wrote: >>> Besides DOAP file and the incubator nomenclature, I may need help identify >>> the addition responsibilities for Apache PMC. One problem, Chukwa community >>> did not have a vote for PMC Chair because we are not sure what is the right >>> process for this. Meanwhile, I have been writing quarterly report like any >>> other Apache project, only recipient of the report is different. >>> >>> Chukwa releases have been voted by Chukwa community which is similar to >>> Hadoop releases, and managed incremental changes using patches and >>> committers. Code audit has been performed by the committers to ensure we >>> don't bring in license incompatible libraries into Chukwa. >>> >>> Owen O'Malley had trained us these procedures roughly two years ago, and we >>> have been executing the same process ever since. >> >> This translate for me into: >> Chukwa didn't have proper oversight by a PMC (a committee that is, not >> a single person) at Hadoop. >> Incubation would fix this using established processes. >> I think this is the right track, and the people involved, including >> the Hadoop PMC, ultimatively did the right thing. >> (Except for not simply growing the Hadoop PMC over time to include >> committers from every product.) >> >>> Chukwa has a community of exist user base of 35 people. It would be nice to >>> make Chukwa a special case to skip incubator nomenclature. This would ease >>> the migration path for the existing Chukwa community. >> >> Ok with me, at least as far as MLs or SVN are concerned. >> However, Chukwa must be aware that it is changing PMCs from Hadoop to >> Incubator. >> So different rules might apply, like marking release artifacts as >> "-incubating". >> Let's gather some more feedback on this. >> > > Most projects that come to incubate would likely prefer to go straight > to the TLP naming.
Sure they'd prefer to. Terminating the Incubator would be worth its own thread, though. > The last time i recall this came up was here: > http://apache.markmail.org/message/ifinvq7wqmeoo5ix ... which is in the context of Subversion. Subversion is on the other end of incubating projects, coming from their own solid standalone ASF-like foundation. > IMHO we should insist on using the incubator naming for the Chukwa > website/svn/MLs because I think Chukwa should just go directly to a > TLP and if they have to use the incubator naming it may help them > decide that the direct to TLP route really is better ;-) I see you blinking here, so I guess this is not just for putting up a strawman ;-) Bernd --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
