Craig L Russell wrote on Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 09:42:18 -0700: > One of the first things you learn in Apache is that there are (at least) > three levels of involvement that community members can take: > contributor, committer, PMC member. See "how it works, roles, etc. etc." > on the Apache site. > > Now the subversion project comes in where these are not the commonly > used terms. Instead, the terms for committer and PMC member are partial > committer and full committer. That's fine for the established community, > but the translation from committer -> partial committer and PMC member -> > full committer needs to be done within the project, not within Apache. >
Subversion doesn't have a concept of "has CTR commit access to the entire tree, but is not a PMC member". (That would be something between partial committer and full committer.) So, IIUC, it's more than terminology difference; it's a semantic difference. (In Subversion, adding to the PMC and granting tree-wide CTR commit access have always been done simultaneously.) > When I saw this month's board report for Subversion, I was taken aback > that the board is expected to follow the terminology used by only one > project. Really? The board, which has used the same terms for 10++ > years, is now going to hear reports of full committers and partial > committers? What do we do when another project comes in and uses yet > different terms for the same concept? Do we now make a translation > manual for everyone in Apache to use? > Subversion *has* used these terms for a few years too. Should we just stop using the terms we've used for N years? <if 0>pun about svn folks being unable to forget their history</if> > My $.02: if you want to talk about full and partial committers in the > Apache community, there's more work to do so everyone gets on board with > your terminology. Otherwise, communications will be enhanced if you keep > full and partial committers to yourselves and translate to the commonly > used Apache terms when dealing with the Apache community. > > And yes, I'd like to see the Subversion board report amended to remove > references to full and partial. > Did you read the report? In particular: lines 1710,1711,1717 of r24487 of the board agenda. > Craig > > Craig L Russell > Architect, Oracle > http://db.apache.org/jdo > 408 276-5638 mailto:craig.russ...@oracle.com > P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp! > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
