I just offered an advice based on my own experience nothing more :)

Cheers
Daniel

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 3:48 AM, Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Gang,
>
> Please be clear about when you are offering advice to podlings and
> when you are conveying policy. The people in the podlings get
> justifiably rattled when they get email that seems to suggest that
> they are somehow not following some rule that isn't, apparently,
> written down anywhere.
>
> --benson
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 8:05 PM, Michael MacFadden
> <michael.macfad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> There are additional benefits to dependency management systems like Maven or 
>> Ivy as well.  Beyond avoiding checking in jar files, you can reference a 
>> dependency once and not have to proliferate references if you have multi 
>> module builds (with multiple build files).  Also, if your project gets 
>> separated into multiple modules, then the build system can actually mange 
>> internal dependancies.
>>
>> Of course checking Jars in to SVN is usually simpler in the short term.
>>
>> ~Michael
>>
>> On Jan 9, 2011, at 4:55 PM, dsh wrote:
>>
>>> s/way/idea/
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 1:54 AM, dsh <daniel.hais...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I'd suggest to consider dependency management systems such as Apache
>>>> Maven or Apache Ivy as an advantage in the long run. They allow to
>>>> precisely document your dependencies and both support an offline mode.
>>>> Additionally both of course provide a very reliable way to define
>>>> exactly what version of what jars are required and ensure everyone has
>>>> the same ones.
>>>>
>>>> So don't put the way aside to migrate to a dependency management
>>>> system as soon as possible.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Daniel
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 1:46 AM, Alex North <ano...@google.com> wrote:
>>>>> The Wave project also has jars in its repository (on its way to Apache 
>>>>> SVN).
>>>>> That seems to be the most reliable way to define exactly what version of
>>>>> what jars are required and ensure everyone has the same ones.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10 January 2011 11:16, Grant Ingersoll <gsing...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This seems a bit over the top.  I prefer them in SVN so I can get them 
>>>>>> all
>>>>>> at once, which is especially nice when one is working offline.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jan 9, 2011, at 5:53 PM, sebb wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've just noticed that there are lots of jars stored in SVN under
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/lcf/branches/release-0.1-branch
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> AIUI, SVN should not be used for storing library jars.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ==
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The way other projects manage this is to define the jar dependencies
>>>>>>> in a build file, and get the build process to download the jars.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If using Maven, this is trivial, as declared dependencies are
>>>>>>> automatically downloaded.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's not that difficult when using Ant either - see for example the
>>>>>>> Tomcat or JMeter projects.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is also an Ant Maven task:
>>>>>>> http://maven.apache.org/ant-tasks/examples/dependencies.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and Apache Ivy
>>>>>>> http://ant.apache.org/ivy/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> though I've not used either of those.
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