On 6/6/11 10:33, Florian Effenberger wrote:
Hi,
Richard S. Hall wrote on 2011-06-06 16.19:
However, it seems like we have lost sight of the fact that TDF split the
community from OOo. Sure, Oracle is the perceived villain and TDF the
perceived good guy, but it doesn't change the fact that OOo created the
community in the first place.
wrong perception.
If a vast majority of the community steps away, because the main
sponsor refuses to talk to them, amongst these community members *all*
community council members who do not work for the main sponsor, plus
nearly all other "officials" (i.e. leads or co-leads) from the
community, you may allow the question who split and who is to blame.
If you don't believe that, feel free to have a look into the mailing
list archives. And if the people in charge respected the community
that much as you seem to suggest, then I wonder why the Apache
proposal has not been discussed with this community in the first place.
I'm not sure what you mean. Did you want Oracle/IBM to discuss the
Apache proposal with TDF before submitting it to Apache? Because
otherwise, this is how proposals work, they get submitted and we discuss
them, which is what we are doing.
So please stop spreading FUD like this. It won't help the further
discussion here at all and just confirms the perception many of us had
back in September: Some people simply do not have the slightest clue
about communities. Or they *do* want to be blind.
Again, it was reported on this list that the parties could not come to
terms, is this true or not? If so, then it is clear that there isn't a
single community, because otherwise terms would have been reached. So,
where is the FUD?
-> richard
As said in my first mail: Do not look into the past. Look into the
future.
Florian
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