Nice job of decontextualization (typical troll tactic). Here is what I was responding to:
------------------------------------------------------------ ----- Original Message ---- > From: toki <toki.kant...@gmail.com> > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Sent: Mon, June 6, 2011 6:25:30 AM > Subject: Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 06/06/2011 08:02, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: > > > AIUI the TDF uses the LGPL. Like the Apache License (AL), the LGPL > > also allows proprietary software to be built on top. So, why would you > > break your rule for a TDF project but not an ASF one? > > It is much easier to convert Apache licensed code to closed source, > proprietary software, than it is to convert LGPL licensed code to closed > source, proprietary software. > > Given the history of OOo, instead of 100 commercial vendors of the > product, pointing to OOo for support, but not providing source code, and > not telling anybody what code changes were made, under the Apache > License you'll have 1,000 such vendors. ------------------------------------------------------------- Your complaint is about people who at the very least intend to abide by the terms of our license, which does not grant anyone access to the OOo brand. In your followup to me below, you've changed to complaining about scofflaws, which I guess consists of about 0.01% of the existing OOo community. If forum participants can't deal with that level of off-topic traffic, perhaps we don't need the forums after all. Make up your mind please. Talking out of both sides of your mouth doesn't benefit anyone here. ----- Original Message ---- > From: toki <toki.kant...@gmail.com> > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Sent: Mon, June 6, 2011 11:40:41 AM > Subject: Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 06/06/2011 13:58, Joe Schaefer wrote: > > > Because Apache will own the brand, we can make access to the brand > contingent on things like non-abuse of our OOo forums, among other > things. > > ROTFLMAO > > At best, you are incredibly naive. Those policies will stop the > companies for all of one picosecond, if that long. > > I've a feeling The Apache Foundation has never had to test their > trademark policy with organizations whose modus operandi is to ignore > the law. Organizations whose legal status is, at best, shaky. Invariably > with a domicile outside of the United States. > > If the Apache Foundation doesn't have a formal policy on dealing with > victims of swindlers, formulating that policy now would be a very good > idea. Something that the legal team can mull through, before the first > victim of an Apache OpenOffice swindle posts a support question to a > list, forum, or other point of contact. > > A policy that won't result in The Apache Foundation having to defend > itself in a frivolous lawsuit, because the victim paid for support > provided by a venue run by The Apache Foundation. > > jonathon > - -- > If Bing copied Google, there wouldn't be anything new worth requesting. > > If Bing did not copy Google, there wouldn't be anything relevant worth > requesting. > > DaveJakeman 20110207 Groklaw. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJN7PT0AAoJEERA7YuLpVrVHX8IAIXsqi5+Siea9XWtap58CjWM > z1tfFeEAHGlY9ChamXkshcOh0P4/E/fYZPhiASggatvN2DsQGwWQloX0CqlKou+A > 9f6kEOOrgZd9SSC4pSZRQ705apWl9p7c04IjucaY9WTYT6kHsNBEkv++4Q8f4QQL > PWvtBzohYNdGLtTvuxmgT160IBxA2+VoHKnXwztAthTssuz0fq9gX/ZZWWQOFm2G > 6v6+rsvzXDFH9bAnwf9prWD4J+psFrjAX15U6KrcCBLJ12wahq5ZwmTSs1/pTt+q > fRiVIdrRGg9OuFFATbbz63TUrin0ttuSBjyP1V8RlnbQcEM1mSjYlXmHmFoQ0oQ= > =Vaee > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
