+1 (binding) On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Karl Pauls <karlpa...@gmail.com> wrote: > Again, we had this discussion before namely, when the actual release > vote happened. I'm still confused why we have to go through this > again. You should be able to build all of the components by using the > -source.jar's that are provided. They contain what is necessary i.e., > the full source. > > regards, > > Karl > > On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 2:30 PM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 17 November 2011 12:29, Karl Pauls <karlpa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> I'm not sure what this has to do with the graduation vote. The release >>> as such has been accepted by the incubator pmc and there only need to >>> be one release. The source for each artifact is there, it is just per >>> artifact in the -source.jar. >> >> AFAICT the full source (as in SVN trunk) is not actually present in >> the distribution directory. >> >> For example, where are the top-level files in SVN (BUILDING, README) ? >> And the etc/ directory? >> >> If I wanted to build any or all of the components, there does not >> appear to be a way to do this from the files in the distribution. >> >>> There might be different set-up then a lot of other projects have it >>> but we release our stuff on a per artifact basis how it is done by for >>> example Apache Felix as well and never has been an issue (and didn't >>> become unmanageably either - also ymmv). >> >> The ASF primarily releases source; releases must include full source. >> >>> I agree about the KEYS file. We should have uploaded it to the dist >>> dir as well but at least we have it at some place so it should be easy >>> to fix. >>> >>> regards, >>> >>> Karl >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 1:07 PM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> On 17 November 2011 10:42, Marcel Offermans <marcel.offerm...@luminis.nl> >>>> wrote: >>>>> In my opinion, ACE is ready to begin the process of graduating from the >>>>> Apache Incubator to a Top Level Project. >>>>> >>>>> Since joining the incubator in in May 2009 we've added 4 new committers >>>>> (12 in total now) from diverse organizations and did a release in May >>>>> this year to demonstrate we follow the Apache guidelines. We've shown an >>>>> ability to self-govern using accepted Apache practices and ACE continues >>>>> to attract new contributors and users. >>>>> >>>>> The first step is to vote as a community, demonstrating that ACE is ready >>>>> and willing to graduate. Once this vote is succesful we create a board >>>>> resolution proposal or Charter and start a vote on the general incubator >>>>> list. The full process is described at >>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#toplevel >>>>> >>>>> The vote is open for at least 72 hours. >>>> >>>> The last (and only) release was 0.8, as far as I can tell. >>>> >>>> There is no KEYS file in http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ace/, >>>> and there does not appear to be a full source archive of the project >>>> anywhere. >>>> The download page does not have a link to any source archives as far >>>> as I can tell. >>>> It does link to KEYS in SVN, but almost all other ASF projects have a >>>> copy of KEYS in the appropriate /dist directory. >>>> >>>> Normally releases are divided into binaries/ and source/ directories, >>>> with a KEYS file in the top-level, i.e. >>>> >>>> /dist/incubator/ace >>>> - KEYS >>>> - binaries/ace ....zip >>>> - sources/ace....zip >>>> >>>> Most of the files in the /dist/incubator/ace directory appear to be >>>> Maven artifacts; normally these are not stored in /dist but only in >>>> the Maven repo. >>>> Indeed most of the files are also in Maven Central. The only non-Maven >>>> files appear to be >>>> >>>> org.apache.ace.target.devgateway-0.8.0-incubator-distribution.zip >>>> org.apache.ace.target.devserver-0.8.0-incubator-distribution.zip >>>> >>>> neither of which contains the source. >>>> >>>> I would expect the above zips to be in >>>> >>>> /dist/incubator/ace/binaries >>>> >>>> with corresponding source files in >>>> >>>> /dist/incubator/ace/source >>>> >>>> The SVN layout [1] is also a bit unusual. >>>> There is no tags/ directory for release tags, although there is a >>>> releases/ directory containing individual entries for each release for >>>> each component. >>>> This is likely to become unmanageable very quickly, if every release >>>> adds another 63 directory entries under releases/ >>>> >>>> [1] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ace/ >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Karl Pauls >>> karlpa...@gmail.com >>> http://twitter.com/karlpauls >>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/karlpauls >>> https://profiles.google.com/karlpauls >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>> >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> >> > > > > -- > Karl Pauls > karlpa...@gmail.com > http://twitter.com/karlpauls > http://www.linkedin.com/in/karlpauls > https://profiles.google.com/karlpauls > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
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