On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 06:34, Jukka Zitting <jukka.zitt...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 12:35 AM, Hyrum K Wright > <hyrum.wri...@wandisco.com> wrote: >> The Incubator proposal was publicized and discussed on trac-dev >> *simultaneously* with the discussion on general@incubator, and the >> reception was generally indifferent (as Greg mentioned earlier) > > To add some pointers to this, the trac-dev discussion thread is at > [1]. A related vote was just called at [2]. > > The question about the fork status was also brought up [3] on general@ > during discussion, and was IMHO answered pretty well [4]. > > Obviously the fear of this being "seen as a hostile fork" did become > reality at least for some, so I guess there's a lesson here for us > all.
Note that the Trac principals suggested the fork with a "let's see where it goes" view. It is just a few of the other committers that are taking issue with Bloodhound. This can be seen simply by reading the thread on trac-dev. I think it important to highlight that trac-dev was notified on Dec 2 of the Bloodhound proposal, but Ethan and others didn't even notice for three weeks. The activity level on trunk, and the active committers can be seen on Ohloh: http://www.ohloh.net/p/trac/contributors?sort=latest_commit Looking at the timeline on trac.edgewall.org, it seems many of the commits are release-related or possibly on dev branches. It is kind of hard to tell. Trunk is certainly minimal activity. Christian is the most active committer (http://www.ohloh.net/p/trac/contributors/13108240188505) and has been supportive of the Bloodhound effort. When I looked at this, a number of months ago, I never felt that we were "forking" an active project. The Trac community revolves mostly around the plugins rather than the core. I see Bloodhound as improving the core facilities (new features and hauling in certain plugins), resulting in a better default distribution (right now, you need to add a dozen plugins to get a useful Trac install). This kind of work has not been happening on the (core) Trac project. Cheers, -g --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org