Dear Apache Members, After this discussion we have renamed the proposal to Apache Olingo.
https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OlingoProposal @Dennis: Thanks again to your feedback here. Regards, Stephan On 21.06.13 17:42, "Dennis E. Hamilton" <dennis.hamil...@acm.org> wrote: >Stephen, > >I support your choice to have a different name. > > - Dennis > >I'm not sure how "Olingo" is pronounced in Spanish but I'm certain there >will be much fun creating artwork of the little critter. It looks like >an animal that must be on the cover of an O'Reilly book somewhere. (I >find raccoons, their cousins, more appealing, except when they are >pillaging the cherry tree at my house.) > >-----Original Message----- >From: Klevenz, Stephan [mailto:stephan.klev...@sap.com] >Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 06:34 AM >To: dennis.hamil...@acm.org; general@incubator.apache.org >Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] OData Proposal for Incubator >Importance: High > >Hi Dennis, > >Sorry for coming back so late to your valuable feedback. After re-thinking >about the trademark issue and your thoughts about confusion we come to >conclusion to use a different name for the project. I would like to change >our project name to > >Apache Olingo > >Olingo is a little bear [1] and that name should avoid any confusion with >the OASIS standard or any other potential trademark holder. If there are >no concerns then I will go and change our proposal to Apache Olingo. > >WDYT? > >Regards, >stephan > >[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olingo > >On 18.06.13 15:58, "Dennis E. Hamilton" <dennis.hamil...@acm.org> wrote: > >>I think there will be an issue with regard to trademarks and you will >>have to deal with folks seeing the trademark of "Apache OData" as a >>land-grab at "OData" itself. The simplicity you think is avoiding >>confusion is, in that respect, causing confusion. >> >>In any case, it is always wise to avoid confusion of a (standard) >>specification, even OASIS Standard OData v3.0 or whatever, with the name >>of an implementation. OASIS is going to make their own claims about some >>of those terms as well, if the past practice is any guide. >> >> - Dennis >> >>The ODF Toolkit snuck by, much to my dismay, even capturing odf as their >>incubator repository name, but they may have to deal with that to >>graduate to a TLP. >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Klevenz, Stephan [mailto:stephan.klev...@sap.com] >>Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 06:27 AM >>To: general@incubator.apache.org >>Cc: dennis.hamil...@acm.org >>Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] OData Proposal for Incubator >> >>Hello Dennis, >> >>Good point! The project naming was a challenge for us and maybe I just >>can >>explain why we prefer Apache OData as project name. The main reason is >>search. >> >>Someone who is interested in OData will use this term and the result page >>will today list odata.org as the protocols homepage, Wikipedia which is >>fine and the OASIS TC. In future we would like to see that Apache OData >>is >>highly ranked and completes the search result list. >> >>If we use a different name someone has to know this name and has to >>search >>for it explicitly. We would like to keep it simple and avoid confusion. >> >>We had also a look into the ASF project naming guidelines and I think >>most >>of the points there are considered by the name Apache OData. >> >> >>Regards, >>Stephan >> >>On 18.06.13 03:28, "Dennis E. Hamilton" <dennis.hamil...@acm.org> wrote: >> >>>I think one concern here is appropriation of a generic, specified-tied >>>name to an implementation, even a reference implementation. >>> >>>"Apache OData" seems over-reaching in that respect, especially since >>>there are other projects, at ASF and elsewhere, that may employ OData >>>bindings and services of one sort or another. >>[ ... ] >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
