Hi Dave, We would be happy to get you as an Mentor to this project. Can you please add yourself as a mentor to the proposal?
https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ODataProposal I do share your concerns about the homogenous initial committer list. Have a look to my recent reply to Henry about the same issue. we are open to everyone to join the Apache OData proposal. Regards, Stephan On 18.06.13 02:19, "Dave Fisher" <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote: > >On Jun 17, 2013, at 12:30 PM, Henry Saputra wrote: > >> I love having the (reference) implementation for OData specs, should >>help >> the adoption of the specifications. >> >> The immediate red flag is the homogeneous participation for initial >> committers. Any plan to add more diverse members as the initial goals? >> Does the project have contributions from external developers or >>community? > >To me the question is if developers from outside of SAP are attracted to >OData and also if the SAP team can properly be open to and inclusive of >new volunteers on their dev list. > >I think that there are a surprising and wide number of possible consumers >and producers of content in this form. > >Services can be defined based purely on the data they provide and >consume. Putting OData services in the context of Tomcat and CXF aligns >perfectly with my $dayjob. I could become a user of this software. > >I would be willing to add my name as a Mentor. > >Regards, >Dave > > > >> >> - Henry >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 8:35 AM, Klevenz, Stephan >> <stephan.klev...@sap.com>wrote: >> >>> Dear ASF members, >>> >>> We would like to propose the OData project to the Incubator. >>> >>> The OData Proposal is available at: >>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ODataProposal >>> >>> We welcome your feedback and suggestions. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Stephan Klevenz >>> >>> >>> >>> = Apache OData = >>> >>> === Abstract === >>> >>> Apache OData is a generic Java language implementation of the OData 2.0 >>> specification which will serve as a code base for the upcoming OASIS >>>OData >>> specification. >>> >>> === Proposal === >>> >>> The Open Data Protocol (OData) [1] is a Web protocol for querying and >>> updating data that provides a way to unlock your data and free it from >>> silos that exist in applications today. OData does this by applying and >>> building upon Web technologies such as HTTP, Atom Publishing Protocol >>> (AtomPub) and JSON to provide access to information from a variety of >>> applications, services, and stores. >>> >>> The Apache OData is a library which enables developers to implement >>>OData >>> producers and OData consumers. Basic principles of the library are to >>> provide an OData 2.0 specification compliant OData Library, >>>enhancements >>> shall be possible in a compatible manner, have a clear separation >>>between >>> Core and API, to provide an option to build extensions on top. This >>>library >>> should be base for implementing future releases of the specification. >>> >>> === Background === >>> >>> OData was originally developed by Microsoft and is released in a >>>version >>> 2.0 under an Open Specification Promise [2]. A lot of companies did >>>show >>> interests in this protocol, used it in products and gave feedback back >>>to >>> Microsoft. This joined effort resulted in a new release OData 3.0 in >>>2012, >>> this version became the basis for the OASIS technical committee [3] >>>which >>> is currently working on a new version of the specification. This OASIS >>> standard release is expected this year. >>> >>> The initial Java code of this project was developed by a development >>>team >>> that had already experience with other OData 2.0 and 3.0 >>>implementations at >>> SAP AG. The current code base implements OData 2.0 and because of this >>> version is widely used it is a good starting point to build an open >>>source >>> community for the OData standard. >>> >>> The current code also comes up with an implementation of an OData >>>sample >>> service. On the one side this is an example for users which want to >>>use the >>> library to expose their own data and on the other side it illustrates >>>how >>> implemented features work. >>> >>> Additionally, the code base includes an extension which is called JPA >>> processor. With this extension it is easy to expose any JPA persistence >>> model via OData protocol without a lot of coding. >>> >>> === Rationale === >>> >>> More software vendors moving to OData means more choice for customers >>>who >>> will be able to use different implementations. For the standard to >>>succeed, >>> however, ensuring interoperability is paramount: in order to manage an >>>ever >>> growing context and leverage the enormous portability and >>>interoperability >>> issues that a globally adopted standard brings, it is necessary to >>>think >>> about how to make the related ecosystem healthy and sustainable. >>>Successful >>> modern standards are driven by: >>> >>> * Clear documentation, built iteratively with continuous feedback from >>> stakeholders >>> * A clearly defined compatibility process, enforced by tools that allow >>> to gauge how implementations can be compatible and interoperable >>> * Accurate compliance criteria, documented in writing as well as in >>> actual testing code that measure how tools and libraries are able to >>> interoperate >>> * A sample implementation to clear up potential doubts and ensure that >>> the standard can actually be implemented in real life scenarios >>> >>> The above mentioned pieces are able to make the development activity, >>> towards an OData implementation, easier and more successful. Having an >>> healthy ecosystem will ensure a smoother implementation process, more >>> compliant products, and ultimately, a wider adoption of the standard. >>> >>> The OData ecosystem has been successful in creating and documenting >>>early >>> versions of the standard, yet it might potentially lack two very >>>important >>> aspects, that is a exhaustive implementation of the complete protocol >>>that >>> can be used productively and to ensure interoperability. As much as >>>such >>> artifacts can be developed independently by any OData proponent, the >>>value >>> of having a neutral party as a steward of actual code is to be >>>considered. >>> The Apache Software Foundation has been playing this kind of role for >>>many >>> years, and can provide the perfect environment to foster contributions >>>on >>> the OData theme with a great amount of expertise. >>> >>> === Initial Goals === >>> >>> * Implement OData 2.0, make it final and mature >>> * Start implementation of OASIS OData draft specification >>> * Provide input and feedback for the draft specification to the OASIS >>> OData TC based on implementation >>> * Implement OData add-ons (library extensions and toolset) >>> >>> == Current Status == >>> >>> === Meritocracy === >>> >>> Most of the initial committers are open source developers with >>>different >>> experience levels and many of them have already worked in other open >>>source >>> or Apache projects. We will follow standard Apache procedures in >>>accepting >>> new contributors to the project team. >>> >>> === Community === >>> >>> Managed by an OASIS Technical Committee, the OData standard definition >>> should be based on the idea of a community driven effort. >>> >>> Apache OData aims to be a community driven initiative in developing a >>>Java >>> OData implementation. Such an approach is allowing more transparency >>>and >>> direct feedback even within the definition and improvement of OData >>> specifications. >>> >>> We encourage everyone interested in OData to join the Apache OData >>>effort. >>> >>> === Core Developers === >>> >>> The development team is international and they have all strong skills >>>in >>> OData protocol. Jens Huesken who is member of the OASIS OData TC is >>> providing specification feedback since OData 2.0. Stephan Klevenz, >>>also a >>> OASIS OData TC member, was a committer of the Apache Chemistry >>>project. He >>> has experience with the Incubator and Apache and was also a speaker on >>> ApacheCon 2012 in Vancouver. Christian Amend, Michael Bolz and Tamara >>>Boehm >>> did implement core parts of the library. Chandan V A, Anirban Roy, >>>Chitresh >>> Chauhan, Jobin John and Joerg Singler are working on the JPA processor >>>add >>> on. >>> >>> === Alignment === >>> >>> The project builds with Apache Maven, the core runtime requires Apache >>>CXF >>> for REST binding (JAX-RS) and the sample scenario can be deployed into >>>any >>> compliant Servlet or J2EE container like Apache Tomcat. Furthermore we >>>see >>> OData protocol as an option to be supported by other Apache projects >>>that >>> have to expose data via a standardized protocol based interface. >>> >>> == Known Risks == >>> >>> === Orphaned products === >>> >>> Apache OData is a fresh new codebase that targets the still moving >>>OData >>> standardization effort. Thus the future of this project depends >>>heavily on >>> the success of the standard. We hope and expect that our implementation >>> efforts will strengthen and support the OData standard. >>> >>> === Inexperience with Open Source === >>> >>> Some of the initial committers are experienced open source developers. >>>But >>> there are also committers which are new to open source. >>> >>> === Homogenous Developers === >>> >>> The initial committers are from SAP working in different teams. One >>>team >>> is from Germany and has implemented the core parts of the library and >>>the >>> other team is from India and has implemented the JPA processor add-on. >>> >>> === Reliance of Salaried Developers === >>> >>> All of the initial committers are paid by SAP to work on this or >>>related >>> projects. >>> >>> === Relationships with Other Apache Products === >>> >>> Apache OData will directly use at least the following projects: >>> >>> * Apache CXF - for REST bindings >>> * Apache Commons - for encoding/decoding >>> >>> Other Apache projects may be interested in using Apache OData to add >>>OData >>> support once the standard is final. >>> >>> === An Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand === >>> >>> We value Apache as a neutral place where diverse communities can work >>> together on implementing shared standards. We hope that this part of >>>the >>> Apache brand helps attract contributions from many potential OData >>>standard >>> consumers. However, the brand value is not the main reason why we >>>prefer to >>> have this project at Apache. >>> >>> == Documentation == >>> >>> This project is still at an early stage, so there is not much >>> documentation available. See the OASIS OData page and odata.org web >>>site >>> for information about the OData standardization effort. >>> >>> == Initial Source == >>> >>> * [[https://github.com/SAP/cloud-odata-java]] >>> * [[https://www.ohloh.net/p/cloud-odata-java]] >>> >>> == Source and Intellectual Property Submission Plan == >>> >>> The complete code is under Apache Software License 2. >>> >>> == External Dependencies == >>> >>> All the external dependencies of the initial codebases comply with >>>Apache >>> licensing policies. >>> >>> == Cryptography == >>> >>> Apache OData is not expected to implement or use cryptographic code. >>> >>> == Required Resources == >>> >>> === Mailing lists === >>> >>> * odata-dev'at'incubator.apache.org >>> * odata-commits'at'incubator.apache.org >>> * odata-private'at'incubator.apache.org >>> >>> === Subversion Directory === >>> >>> writeable Git Repository (preferred) >>> >>> [[git://git.apache.org/odata.git]] >>> >>> or SVN Directory >>> >>> [[https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/odata]] >>> >>> === Issue Tracking === >>> >>> JIRA OData (OData) >>> >>> === Other Resources === >>> >>> none >>> >>> == Initial Committers == >>> >>> || '''Name''' || '''Email''' || >>> || Stephan Klevenz || sklevenz'at'apache.org || >>> || Jens Huesken || jens.huesken'at'sap.com || >>> || Christian Amend || christian.amend'at'sap.com || >>> || Michael Bolz || michael.bolz'at'sap.com || >>> || Tamara Boehm || tamara.boehm'at'sap.com || >>> || Chandan V A || chandan.v.a'at'sap.com || >>> || Anirban Roy || anirban.roy'at'sap.com || >>> || Chitresh Chauhan || chitresh.chauhan'at'sap.com || >>> || Jobin John || jobin.john'at'sap.com || >>> || Joerg Singler || joerg.singler'at'sap.com || >>> >>> == Affiliations == >>> >>> || '''Name''' || '''Affilitation''' || >>> || Stephan Klevenz || SAP AG || >>> || Jens Huesken || SAP AG || >>> || Christian Amend || SAP AG || >>> || Michael Bolz || SAP AG || >>> || Tamara Boehm || SAP AG || >>> || Chandan V A || SAP AG || >>> || Anirban Roy || SAP AG || >>> || Chitresh Chauhan || SAP AG || >>> || Jobin John || SAP AG || >>> || Joerg Singler || SAP AG || >>> >>> == Sponsors == >>> >>> Champion >>> >>> * Florian Mueller >>> >>> Nominated Mentors >>> >>> * Florian Mueller >>> * tbd. >>> >>> Sponsoring Entiy >>> >>> * Incubator PMC >>> >>> ==== Links ==== >>> >>> * [1] [[http://www.odata.org]] >>> * [2] [[ >>> >>>http://www.microsoft.com/openspecifications/en/us/programs/osp/default.a >>>spx >>> ]] >>> * [3] >>>[[https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=odata >>> ]] >>> * [4] [[ >>> https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/membership.php?wg_abbrev=odata]] >>> >>> > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org