Thanks a lot Olivier

On 7 Oct 2013, at 1:26, Olivier Lamy wrote:

Page renamed: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/SironaProposal
I will wait until tomorrow if no more objections then start the vote.


On 7 October 2013 09:59, Tammo van Lessen <tvanles...@gmail.com> wrote:
+1 for Sirona


On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Ashish <paliwalash...@gmail.com> wrote:

+1, sounds good


On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 4:31 AM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> wrote:

So Apache Merlin sounds good to me.
Any objections?

On 25 September 2013 23:47, Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Nechtan sounds cool also. Please note, in the german wikipedia its
translated with "The tremendousness". This is not noted on the english wikipedia. After reading wikipedia I am still not sure what Nechtan
stands
for. But I like its sound.

I just found "Sirona", goddess of healing. Because monitoring is
"identifying the sickness before its getting worse". However, Sirona is
used
by companies related to healing (aka dental works).

What I found interesting is this page claims Merlin being a god:
http://wicca.com/celtic/wicca/celtic.htm
of protecting, counseling, crystal reading and so.

A few projects use Merlin, but all are very small ant not related to
monitoring.
There is a project management software called marlin:
http://www.projectwizards.net/de/merlin/

I believe we currently have:

Apache Leitstand
Apache Nechtan
Apache Merlin
Apache Sirona
Apache Heimdall
Apache Dagr

Cheers



On 25 Sep 2013, at 15:03, Stephen Connolly wrote:

Why not try Celtic mythology.... I was thinking "Apache Nechtan" due
to
the
association with access to knowledge and floods... but heck I am not
good
on my Irish mythology and the Norse ones always sounded way cooler


On 25 September 2013 13:23, Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com>
wrote:

I also see thor is being used by infra:
status.apache.org

(mentioning, because it has been proposed as name too).

However, it's not so bad. I actually mixed up Baldur with Heimdall,
who
is
the actual "protector" of Bifröst. Baldur was more known because he
was
able to return from Hel (sounds like a good name for a server ;-)
A quick crosscheck told me Heimdall is not used that often.

For those who were concerned about using nordic godnames: Heimdall
was
named as the "father of all humans".

He was also known for his horn Gjallarhorn which he blew when danger appeared. Most notable he blew that horn when Ragnarökr (the end of
our
time and the fall of the gods) starts.

I imagine the sound of a horn when critical notification of the tool
happens ;-)

Another idea i just had was "Dagr". It old norsk for "Day". In old
myths
Dagr is the son of night and he rides his horse Skinfaxi through
heaven.
The crest of the horse lights the earth with golden shimmer. I
imagine
Apache Dagr to shed light on the dark corners of our applications.


Heck, when I was young i read a lot about northern mythology. Its so
poetic. I should spend some time to read again.







On 25 Sep 2013, at 10:19, Daniel Gruno wrote:

On 09/25/2013 09:21 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote:


Baldr is fine with me, my only concern is the similarity to Apache
Buildr.


Just a heads up from infra; baldr.apache.org is already very much a thing, and has been for more than five years. If it can be avoided,
we'd
really appreciate it if we can keep the name Baldr for our
infrastructure.

With regards,
Daniel.


Tammo
Am 25.09.2013 01:18 schrieb "Olivier Lamy" <ol...@apache.org>:

So what about Baldr?

BTW we can start incubation using Monitoring then change the name
for
TLP?
WDYT?

On 21 September 2013 06:30, Christian Grobmeier <
grobme...@gmail.com>
wrote:

I would like to throw in this document:

http://www.apache.org/**foundation/marks/naming.html<
http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html>

We should make a few tests already before we start the process

officially.


here is the current list, i felt so free to add a few comments
already.

- CoMon
There is "Common Software", a company. We might have a trademarks
problem because of similarity.

- Leitstand
Not sure if I like the sound :-), but did not find any
repositories
at
github. From the meaning, a Leitstand is usually something were
you
can
adjust things (more power, less steam and so on). Monitoring
would
be
only a part of it. But on the other hand, it expresses things
well
and
it is a unused word so far.

- Thor
Great name, great god, but unfortunately a lot of people use that
name
for their code :-(

- Balder / Baldur, also possible: Baldr
I haven't see a lot with that name, but we need to check this
more
in
detail.

From that perspective, Leitstand would be the best catch from a
unique


point of view. I like Baldr very much from that meaning.

Lets see if there are more names the next days.




Romain Manni-Bucau schrieb:

Why not "CoMon"? Remind commons monitoring, that's fun and
closer
to
english so easier to propagate IMO.
Le 20 sept. 2013 12:59, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" <j...@nanthrax.net

a

écrit :



I like the "Apache Leitstand" name.


Regards
JB

On 09/20/2013 09:51 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote:

So if German is en vogue already, I'd propose "Apache
Leitstand"

[1],
which
means "control room". I think it would make also a nice name
when
pronounced in English. This of course only works if the GUI is
an
important
piece of the project, which is the case if I understood
correctly.

Cheers,
Tammo

[1]
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/****Leitstand<
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand>
<


http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand<
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leitstand>





On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:23 AM, Olivier Lamy <
ol...@apache.org


wrote:



So It looks we have more interested folks.

But before starting the vote I'd like to find an other name
for
the
project.
Someone proposed "Baldur" or "Balder" (note, It's a popular
germanic
god). So as a French guy this proposition looks to be rude
for
me

:-).


More seriously, this name doesn't hurt me.

If any other propositions, it's time to speak.

Cheers
--
Olivier

On 16 September 2013 08:25, Tammo van Lessen
<tvanles...@gmail.com


wrote:

Am 15.09.2013 15:35 schrieb "Romain Manni-Bucau" <


rmannibu...@gmail.com


:


Hi


Angular is great but i hope well keep extensibility
possible

without


js.


In


all case well get at least a thread on it to discuss about
the


stack we


want and well use ;)


Looking forward to that discussion ;) I'd prefer
progressive


enhancement


over SPAs in this context as well. Or even http://roca-style.org
.


Tammo



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