No problem, that sounds good as well. JLouis
2013/10/3 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com> > works for me too > > *Romain Manni-Bucau* > *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>* > *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*< > http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/> > *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau* > *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau* > > > > 2013/10/3 Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> > > > Sounds good for me too. > > > > > > On 2 October 2013 18:19, Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de> wrote: > > > -1 for Merlin. Just too widely used :( > > > There are 10++ pages of trademarks in all fields in trademarkia, many > of > > them in the software area > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 for Sirona as it has a nice meaning and it seems to not be used for > > any software related product so far. > > > > > > LieGrue, > > > strub > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> > > >> To: general@incubator.apache.org > > >> Cc: > > >> Sent: Wednesday, 2 October 2013, 8:46 > > >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring > > >> > > >> +1 > > >> > > >> Regards > > >> JB > > >> > > >> On 10/02/2013 01:01 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote: > > >>> So Apache Merlin sounds good to me. > > >>> Any objections? > > >>> > > >>> On 25 September 2013 23:47, Christian Grobmeier < > grobme...@gmail.com> > > >> wrote: > > >>>> Nechtan sounds cool also. Please note, in the german wikipedia its > > >>>> translated with "The tremendousness". This is not noted on > > >> the english > > >>>> wikipedia. After reading wikipedia I am still not sure what Nechtan > > >> stands > > >>>> for. But I like its sound. > > >>>> > > >>>> I just found "Sirona", goddess of healing. Because monitoring > > >> is > > >>>> "identifying the sickness before its getting worse". However, > > >> Sirona is used > > >>>> by companies related to healing (aka dental works). > > >>>> > > >>>> What I found interesting is this page claims Merlin being a god: > > >>>> http://wicca.com/celtic/wicca/celtic.htm > > >>>> of protecting, counseling, crystal reading and so. > > >>>> > > >>>> A few projects use Merlin, but all are very small ant not related > to > > >>>> monitoring. > > >>>> There is a project management software called marlin: > > >>>> http://www.projectwizards.net/de/merlin/ > > >>>> > > >>>> I believe we currently have: > > >>>> > > >>>> Apache Leitstand > > >>>> Apache Nechtan > > >>>> Apache Merlin > > >>>> Apache Sirona > > >>>> Apache Heimdall > > >>>> Apache Dagr > > >>>> > > >>>> Cheers > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> On 25 Sep 2013, at 15:03, Stephen Connolly wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> Why not try Celtic mythology.... I was thinking "Apache > > >> Nechtan" due to > > >>>>> the > > >>>>> association with access to knowledge and floods... but heck I am > > >> not good > > >>>>> on my Irish mythology and the Norse ones always sounded way cooler > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On 25 September 2013 13:23, Christian Grobmeier > > >> <grobme...@gmail.com> > > >>>>> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> I also see thor is being used by infra: > > >>>>>> status.apache.org > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> (mentioning, because it has been proposed as name too). > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> However, it's not so bad. I actually mixed up Baldur with > > >> Heimdall, who > > >>>>>> is > > >>>>>> the actual "protector" of Bifröst. Baldur was more > > >> known because he was > > >>>>>> able to return from Hel (sounds like a good name for a server > > >> ;-) > > >>>>>> A quick crosscheck told me Heimdall is not used that often. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> For those who were concerned about using nordic godnames: > > >> Heimdall was > > >>>>>> named as the "father of all humans". > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> He was also known for his horn Gjallarhorn which he blew when > > >> danger > > >>>>>> appeared. Most notable he blew that horn when Ragnarökr (the > > >> end of our > > >>>>>> time and the fall of the gods) starts. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> I imagine the sound of a horn when critical notification of the > > >> tool > > >>>>>> happens ;-) > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Another idea i just had was "Dagr". It old norsk for > > >> "Day". In old myths > > >>>>>> Dagr is the son of night and he rides his horse Skinfaxi > > >> through heaven. > > >>>>>> The crest of the horse lights the earth with golden shimmer. I > > >> imagine > > >>>>>> Apache Dagr to shed light on the dark corners of our > > >> applications. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Heck, when I was young i read a lot about northern mythology. > > >> Its so > > >>>>>> poetic. I should spend some time to read again. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> On 25 Sep 2013, at 10:19, Daniel Gruno wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> On 09/25/2013 09:21 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote: > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Baldr is fine with me, my only concern is the > > >> similarity to Apache > > >>>>>>>> Buildr. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Just a heads up from infra; baldr.apache.org is already > > >> very much a > > >>>>>>> thing, and has been for more than five years. If it can be > > >> avoided, we'd > > >>>>>>> really appreciate it if we can keep the name Baldr for our > > >>>>>>> infrastructure. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> With regards, > > >>>>>>> Daniel. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Tammo > > >>>>>>>> Am 25.09.2013 01:18 schrieb "Olivier Lamy" > > >> <ol...@apache.org>: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> So what about Baldr? > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> BTW we can start incubation using Monitoring then > > >> change the name for > > >>>>>>>>> TLP? > > >>>>>>>>> WDYT? > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> On 21 September 2013 06:30, Christian Grobmeier > > >> <grobme...@gmail.com> > > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> I would like to throw in this document: > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >> http://www.apache.org/**foundation/marks/naming.html< > > http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> We should make a few tests already before we > > >> start the process > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> officially. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> here is the current list, i felt so free to add > > >> a few comments > > >>>>>>>>>> already. > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> - CoMon > > >>>>>>>>>> There is "Common Software", a > > >> company. We might have a trademarks > > >>>>>>>>>> problem because of similarity. > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> - Leitstand > > >>>>>>>>>> Not sure if I like the sound :-), but did not > > >> find any repositories > > >>>>>>>>>> at > > >>>>>>>>>> github. From the meaning, a Leitstand is > > >> usually something were you > > >>>>>>>>>> can > > >>>>>>>>>> adjust things (more power, less steam and so > > >> on). Monitoring would be > > >>>>>>>>>> only a part of it. But on the other hand, it > > >> expresses things well > > >>>>>>>>>> and > > >>>>>>>>>> it is a unused word so far. > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> - Thor > > >>>>>>>>>> Great name, great god, but unfortunately a lot > > >> of people use that > > >>>>>>>>>> name > > >>>>>>>>>> for their code :-( > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> - Balder / Baldur, also possible: Baldr > > >>>>>>>>>> I haven't see a lot with that name, but we > > >> need to check this more in > > >>>>>>>>>> detail. > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> From that perspective, Leitstand would be the > > >> best catch from a > > >>>>>>>>>> unique > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> point of view. I like Baldr very much from that > > >> meaning. > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> Lets see if there are more names the next days. > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau schrieb: > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Why not "CoMon"? Remind commons > > >> monitoring, that's fun and closer to > > >>>>>>>>>>> english so easier to propagate IMO. > > >>>>>>>>>>> Le 20 sept. 2013 12:59, "Jean-Baptiste > > >> Onofré" <j...@nanthrax.net> a > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> écrit : > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> I like the "Apache Leitstand" > > >> name. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards > > >>>>>>>>>>>> JB > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On 09/20/2013 09:51 AM, Tammo van > > >> Lessen wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> So if German is en vogue already, > > >> I'd propose "Apache Leitstand" > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1], > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> which > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> means "control room". I > > >> think it would make also a nice name when > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> pronounced in English. This of > > >> course only works if the GUI is an > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> important > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> piece of the project, which is the > > >> case if I understood correctly. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Tammo > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/****Leitstand< > > http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> < > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand< > > http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leitstand> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:23 AM, > > >> Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> So It looks we have more interested > > >> folks. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> But before starting the vote > > >> I'd like to find an other name for > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> project. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Someone proposed > > >> "Baldur" or "Balder" (note, It's a popular > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> germanic > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> god). So as a French guy this > > >> proposition looks to be rude for me > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> :-). > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> More seriously, this name doesn't hurt me. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If any other propositions, > > >> it's time to speak. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16 September 2013 08:25, > > >> Tammo van Lessen > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <tvanles...@gmail.com > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 15.09.2013 15:35 schrieb > > >> "Romain Manni-Bucau" < > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rmannibu...@gmail.com > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> : > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Angular is great but i > > >> hope well keep extensibility possible > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> js. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all case well get at least > > >> a thread on it to discuss about the > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stack we > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> want and well use ;) > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to that > > >> discussion ;) I'd prefer progressive > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> enhancement > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> over SPAs in this context as well. Or even > > >> http://roca-style.org. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tammo > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier Lamy > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/olamy | > > >> http://linkedin.com/in/olamy > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> ------------------------------****----------------------------** > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --** > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --------- > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > >> general-unsubscribe@incubator.**** > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> apache.org< > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.org< > > general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: > > >> general-help@incubator.apache. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> **org<general-help@incubator.**apache.org< > > general-h...@incubator.apache.org> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré > > >>>>>>>>>>>> jbono...@apache.org > > >>>>>>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Talend - 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