-1 for Merlin. Just too widely used :( There are 10++ pages of trademarks in all fields in trademarkia, many of them in the software area
+1 for Sirona as it has a nice meaning and it seems to not be used for any software related product so far. LieGrue, strub ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, 2 October 2013, 8:46 > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring > > +1 > > Regards > JB > > On 10/02/2013 01:01 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote: >> So Apache Merlin sounds good to me. >> Any objections? >> >> On 25 September 2013 23:47, Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com> > wrote: >>> Nechtan sounds cool also. Please note, in the german wikipedia its >>> translated with "The tremendousness". This is not noted on > the english >>> wikipedia. After reading wikipedia I am still not sure what Nechtan > stands >>> for. But I like its sound. >>> >>> I just found "Sirona", goddess of healing. Because monitoring > is >>> "identifying the sickness before its getting worse". However, > Sirona is used >>> by companies related to healing (aka dental works). >>> >>> What I found interesting is this page claims Merlin being a god: >>> http://wicca.com/celtic/wicca/celtic.htm >>> of protecting, counseling, crystal reading and so. >>> >>> A few projects use Merlin, but all are very small ant not related to >>> monitoring. >>> There is a project management software called marlin: >>> http://www.projectwizards.net/de/merlin/ >>> >>> I believe we currently have: >>> >>> Apache Leitstand >>> Apache Nechtan >>> Apache Merlin >>> Apache Sirona >>> Apache Heimdall >>> Apache Dagr >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> >>> >>> On 25 Sep 2013, at 15:03, Stephen Connolly wrote: >>> >>>> Why not try Celtic mythology.... I was thinking "Apache > Nechtan" due to >>>> the >>>> association with access to knowledge and floods... but heck I am > not good >>>> on my Irish mythology and the Norse ones always sounded way cooler >>>> >>>> >>>> On 25 September 2013 13:23, Christian Grobmeier > <grobme...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I also see thor is being used by infra: >>>>> status.apache.org >>>>> >>>>> (mentioning, because it has been proposed as name too). >>>>> >>>>> However, it's not so bad. I actually mixed up Baldur with > Heimdall, who >>>>> is >>>>> the actual "protector" of Bifröst. Baldur was more > known because he was >>>>> able to return from Hel (sounds like a good name for a server > ;-) >>>>> A quick crosscheck told me Heimdall is not used that often. >>>>> >>>>> For those who were concerned about using nordic godnames: > Heimdall was >>>>> named as the "father of all humans". >>>>> >>>>> He was also known for his horn Gjallarhorn which he blew when > danger >>>>> appeared. Most notable he blew that horn when Ragnarökr (the > end of our >>>>> time and the fall of the gods) starts. >>>>> >>>>> I imagine the sound of a horn when critical notification of the > tool >>>>> happens ;-) >>>>> >>>>> Another idea i just had was "Dagr". It old norsk for > "Day". In old myths >>>>> Dagr is the son of night and he rides his horse Skinfaxi > through heaven. >>>>> The crest of the horse lights the earth with golden shimmer. I > imagine >>>>> Apache Dagr to shed light on the dark corners of our > applications. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Heck, when I was young i read a lot about northern mythology. > Its so >>>>> poetic. I should spend some time to read again. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 25 Sep 2013, at 10:19, Daniel Gruno wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On 09/25/2013 09:21 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Baldr is fine with me, my only concern is the > similarity to Apache >>>>>>> Buildr. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Just a heads up from infra; baldr.apache.org is already > very much a >>>>>> thing, and has been for more than five years. If it can be > avoided, we'd >>>>>> really appreciate it if we can keep the name Baldr for our >>>>>> infrastructure. >>>>>> >>>>>> With regards, >>>>>> Daniel. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Tammo >>>>>>> Am 25.09.2013 01:18 schrieb "Olivier Lamy" > <ol...@apache.org>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So what about Baldr? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> BTW we can start incubation using Monitoring then > change the name for >>>>>>>> TLP? >>>>>>>> WDYT? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 21 September 2013 06:30, Christian Grobmeier > <grobme...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I would like to throw in this document: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > http://www.apache.org/**foundation/marks/naming.html<http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We should make a few tests already before we > start the process >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> officially. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> here is the current list, i felt so free to add > a few comments >>>>>>>>> already. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - CoMon >>>>>>>>> There is "Common Software", a > company. We might have a trademarks >>>>>>>>> problem because of similarity. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - Leitstand >>>>>>>>> Not sure if I like the sound :-), but did not > find any repositories >>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>> github. From the meaning, a Leitstand is > usually something were you >>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>> adjust things (more power, less steam and so > on). Monitoring would be >>>>>>>>> only a part of it. But on the other hand, it > expresses things well >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> it is a unused word so far. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - Thor >>>>>>>>> Great name, great god, but unfortunately a lot > of people use that >>>>>>>>> name >>>>>>>>> for their code :-( >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - Balder / Baldur, also possible: Baldr >>>>>>>>> I haven't see a lot with that name, but we > need to check this more in >>>>>>>>> detail. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From that perspective, Leitstand would be the > best catch from a >>>>>>>>> unique >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> point of view. I like Baldr very much from that > meaning. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Lets see if there are more names the next days. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau schrieb: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Why not "CoMon"? Remind commons > monitoring, that's fun and closer to >>>>>>>>>> english so easier to propagate IMO. >>>>>>>>>> Le 20 sept. 2013 12:59, "Jean-Baptiste > Onofré" <j...@nanthrax.net> a >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> écrit : >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I like the "Apache Leitstand" > name. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>> JB >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 09/20/2013 09:51 AM, Tammo van > Lessen wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> So if German is en vogue already, > I'd propose "Apache Leitstand" >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> [1], >>>>>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>>>> means "control room". I > think it would make also a nice name when >>>>>>>>>>>> pronounced in English. This of > course only works if the GUI is an >>>>>>>>>>>> important >>>>>>>>>>>> piece of the project, which is the > case if I understood correctly. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>> Tammo >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>>>>>>> > http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/****Leitstand<http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand> >>>>>>>>>>>> < >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand<http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leitstand> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:23 AM, > Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> So It looks we have more interested > folks. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> But before starting the vote > I'd like to find an other name for >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> project. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Someone proposed > "Baldur" or "Balder" (note, It's a popular >>>>>>>>>>>>> germanic >>>>>>>>>>>>> god). So as a French guy this > proposition looks to be rude for me >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> :-). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> More seriously, this name doesn't hurt me. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> If any other propositions, > it's time to speak. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16 September 2013 08:25, > Tammo van Lessen >>>>>>>>>>>>> <tvanles...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 15.09.2013 15:35 schrieb > "Romain Manni-Bucau" < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> rmannibu...@gmail.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> : >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Angular is great but i > hope well keep extensibility possible >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> without >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> js. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> all case well get at least > a thread on it to discuss about the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> stack we >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> want and well use ;) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to that > discussion ;) I'd prefer progressive >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> enhancement >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> over SPAs in this context as well. Or even > http://roca-style.org. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tammo >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier Lamy >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/olamy | > http://linkedin.com/in/olamy >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > ------------------------------****----------------------------** >>>>>>>>>>>>> --** >>>>>>>>>>>>> --------- >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: > general-unsubscribe@incubator.**** >>>>>>>>>>>>> apache.org< >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.org<general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: > general-help@incubator.apache. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > **org<general-help@incubator.**apache.org<general-h...@incubator.apache.org> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré >>>>>>>>>>> jbono...@apache.org >>>>>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net >>>>>>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > ------------------------------****----------------------------** >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --**--------- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: > general-unsubscribe@incubator.****apache.org< >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.org<general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: > general-help@incubator.apache.** >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> **org< >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > general-help@incubator.apache.**org<general-h...@incubator.apache.org> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > ------------------------------**------------------------------** >>>>>>>>> --------- >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >>>>>>>>> > general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.org<general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org> >>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: >>>>>>>>> > general-help@incubator.apache.**org<general-h...@incubator.apache.org> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Olivier Lamy >>>>>>>> Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au >>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/olamy | > http://linkedin.com/in/olamy >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > ------------------------------**------------------------------** >>>>>>>> --------- >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >>>>>>>> > general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.org<general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org> >>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: >>>>>>>> > general-help@incubator.apache.**org<general-h...@incubator.apache.org> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> > ------------------------------**------------------------------**--------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >>>>>> > general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.org<general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org> >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: >>>>>> > general-help@incubator.apache.**org<general-h...@incubator.apache.org> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > ------------------------------**------------------------------**--------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >>>>> > general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.org<general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org> >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: >>>>> > general-help@incubator.apache.**org<general-h...@incubator.apache.org> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>> >> >> >> > > -- > Jean-Baptiste Onofré > jbono...@apache.org > http://blog.nanthrax.net > Talend - http://www.talend.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
