On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 11:31PM, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
> On 06/12/2014 07:56 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> > This is one of the questions, I'd like to explore in greater details: are
> > we comfortable with having "professional student" projects in the
> > incubator?
> 
> In response to the general question, it seems that "professional
> student" podlings are inconsistent with the idea that the Incubator is a
> process that should result in graduation or termination.
> 
> > In the case of Wave, it really strikes me as odd that the community is not
> > capable of even a single release in more than 3.5 years:
> >    http://incubator.apache.org/wave/downloads.html
> > 
> > This suggests that ASF is being used as a GitHub of sorts. Are we 
> > comfortable
> > with this?
> 
> Speaking for myself, no. I'd be uncomfortable having a specific deadline
> for graduation, but a podling that's not making progress towards
> graduation (in general, not pointing a finger specifically at Wave here)
> should be terminated.

For what it worth, I think you're right: a permanent incubator project doesn't
make sense. For once, there's a lot of people mechanics involved into
podlings' mentoring, reporting, etc. And it doesn't feel exactly right to
forever handhold something that doesn't have an intention to evolve.

Cos


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