Oh, I am under the impression that mentor has to be IPMC member, but
champion can be either IPMC member or Apache member:

"Where the Champion is not a Member of the Foundation (i.e. is an Officer
only), the Champion shall be a member of the PMC of the Sponsor."(
http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html)

Isn't it?

On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 1:59 PM, jan i <j...@apache.org> wrote:

> On Thursday, December 4, 2014, Henry Saputra <henry.sapu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I was not saying to stop it but Daniel needs to send request to
> > private@ list make sure he is part of IPMCs.
>
> Agreed, sorry if my wording sounded differently.
>
> rgds
> jan i
>
> >
> > - Henry
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 12:48 PM, jan i <j...@apache.org <javascript:;>>
> > wrote:
> > > On Thursday, December 4, 2014, Henry Saputra <henry.sapu...@gmail.com
> > <javascript:;>>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Daniel,
> > >>
> > >> Small formality, as I remember champion has to be member of IPMC in
> > >> which you are not.
> > >> Since you are a member of ASF, you can just send email to
> > >> private@incubator.a.o to be added as member of IPMC.
> > >
> > >
> > > I agree we need formalities to be in order, but in this case its really
> > > only paperwork, so lets not stop the process for the project.
> > >
> > > just my opinion.
> > > rgds
> > > jan i
> > >
> > >>
> > >> - Henry
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 9:27 PM, Daniel Dai <dai...@gmail.com
> > <javascript:;>
> > >> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > >> > Hi,
> > >> >
> > >> > I would like to propose SAMOA as an Apache Incubator project.
> > >> > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/SAMOAProposal
> > >> >
> > >> > I've posted posted the text of the proposal below:
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks,
> > >> > Daniel
> > >> >
> > >> > = SAMOA =
> > >> > == Abstract ==
> > >> > SAMOA is an an open-source platform for mining big data streams.
> > >> >
> > >> > == Proposal ==
> > >> > SAMOA provides a collection of distributed streaming algorithms for
> > the
> > >> > most common data mining and machine learning tasks such as
> > >> classification,
> > >> > clustering, and regression, as well as programming abstractions to
> > >> develop
> > >> > new algorithms that run on top of distributed stream processing
> > engines
> > >> > (DSPEs). It features a pluggable architecture that allows it to run
> on
> > >> > several DSPEs such as Apache Storm, Apache S4, and Apache Samza.
> > >> >
> > >> > == Background ==
> > >> > Hadoop and its ecosystem have changed the way data are processed by
> > >> > allowing to push algorithms to unprecedented scale. As an example,
> > Mahout
> > >> > allows to run data mining and machine learning algorithms on very
> > large
> > >> > datasets. However, Hadoop and Mahout are not suited to handle
> > streaming
> > >> > data. Simply put, the goal of SAMOA is to provide a streaming
> > counterpart
> > >> > to Mahout.
> > >> >
> > >> > == Rationale ==
> > >> > SAMOA aims to fill the current gap in tools for mining large scale
> > >> streams.
> > >> > Many organizations can benefit from a scalable stream mining
> platform
> > >> > system such as SAMOA.
> > >> >
> > >> > SAMOA is a natural fit for the Apache Software Foundation. It is
> > licensed
> > >> > under the ASL v2.0. It already interoperates with several existing
> > Apache
> > >> > projects such as Storm, S4, and Samza. Furthermore, it is
> > complementary
> > >> to
> > >> > existing Apache projects such as Mahout. The initial committers are
> > >> > familiar with the Apache process and subscribes to the Apache
> mission.
> > >> > Indeed, the team includes multiple Apache committers. Finally,
> joining
> > >> > Apache will help coordinate the development effort of the growing
> > number
> > >> of
> > >> > organizations which contribute to SAMOA.
> > >> >
> > >> > == Initial Goals ==
> > >> > * Move the existing codebase to Apache
> > >> > * Integrate with the Apache development process
> > >> > * Incremental development and releases per Apache guidelines
> > >> >
> > >> > == Current Status ==
> > >> > SAMOA started as a research project at Yahoo Labs in 2013 and was
> > >> > open-sourced in October the same year. It has been under development
> > on
> > >> > Yahoo's public GitHub repository since being open-sourced. It has
> > >> undergone
> > >> > two releases (0.1, 0.2).
> > >> >
> > >> > === Meritocracy ===
> > >> > The SAMOA project already operates on meritocratic principles.
> Today,
> > >> SAMOA
> > >> > has several developers and has accepted multiple patches from
> outside
> > of
> > >> > Yahoo Labs. However, our intent with this incubator proposal is to
> > start
> > >> > building a more diverse developer community around SAMOA that
> follows
> > the
> > >> > Apache meritocracy model. We will identify all committers and PPMC
> > >> members
> > >> > for the project operating under the ASF meritocratic principles. We
> > plan
> > >> to
> > >> > continue support for new contributors and work with those who
> > contribute
> > >> > significantly to the project to make them committers.
> > >> >
> > >> > === Community ===
> > >> > SAMOA is currently being used internally at Yahoo. Acceptance into
> the
> > >> > Apache foundation would bolster the existing user and developer
> > community
> > >> > around SAMOA. That community includes contributors from several
> > >> > institutions, active mostly on GitHub's pages. SAMOA has been
> starred
> > >> more
> > >> > than 300 times and forked more than 50 times on GitHub as of
> November
> > >> 2014.
> > >> >
> > >> > === Core Developers ===
> > >> > The core developers are a diverse group, many of which already very
> > >> > experienced with open source. There are two existing Apache
> > committers,
> > >> > along with people from various companies and universities.
> > >> >
> > >> > === Alignment ===
> > >> > The ASF is the natural choice to host SAMOA. First, its goal of
> > >> encouraging
> > >> > community-driven open-source projects fits with our vision for
> SAMOA.
> > >> > Additionally, many other projects that SAMOA is based on, such as
> > Apache
> > >> > Storm, S4, Samza, and HDFS, are hosted by the ASF. Close proximity
> of
> > >> SAMOA
> > >> > to these projects within the ASF will provide mutual benefit.
> > >> >
> > >> > == Known Risks ==
> > >> > === Orphaned Products ===
> > >> > Given the current level of investment in SAMOA the risk of the
> project
> > >> > being abandoned is minimal. There are several constituents who are
> > highly
> > >> > incentivized to continue development, and Yahoo Labs relies on SAMOA
> > as a
> > >> > platform for a large number of long-term research projects. However,
> > the
> > >> > small number of initial committers might be a concern. We plan to
> > address
> > >> > this issue during incubation by growing the community and the number
> > of
> > >> > committers.
> > >> >
> > >> > === Inexperience with Open Source ===
> > >> > SAMOA has existed as a healthy open source project for one year.
> > During
> > >> > this time, we have curated an open-source community successfully,
> > >> > attracting developers from a diverse group of universities and
> > companies
> > >> > including Huawei, Yahoo, University of Porto, and Universitat
> > Politecnica
> > >> > de Catalunya.
> > >> >
> > >> > Gianmarco is a committer for Apache Pig, Matthieu for Apache S4.
> > Albert
> > >> is
> > >> > one of the lead developers of MOA, an open-source tool for streaming
> > >> > machine learning.
> > >> >
> > >> > === Homogenous Developers ===
> > >> > The initial list of committers includes developers from several
> > >> > institutions, both academic and industrial. The committers are
> > >> > geographically distributed across Europe, America, and Asia.
> > >> >
> > >> > === Reliance on Salaried Developers ===
> > >> > Like most open source projects, SAMOA receives a substantial support
> > from
> > >> > salaried developers. In addition, those working from within
> > corporations
> > >> > often devote “after hours” or spare time in the project - and these
> > come
> > >> > from several organizations. We will work to ensure the ability for
> the
> > >> > project to continuously be stewarded and to proceed forward
> > independently
> > >> > of salaried developers.
> > >> >
> > >> > === Relationship with Other Apache Products ===
> > >> > SAMOA interoperates with several existing Apache project, mainly by
> > using
> > >> > them as stream processing engines: Apache Storm, Apache S4, and
> Apache
> > >> > Samza. It also uses several other Apache components, including
> Apache
> > >> Maven
> > >> > and several Apache Commons libraries.
> > >> >
> > >> > === A Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand ===
> > >> > SAMOA is already a healthy and relatively well known open source
> > project.
> > >> > This proposal is not for the purpose of generating publicity.
> Rather,
> > the
> > >> > primary benefits to joining Apache are those outlined in the
> Rationale
> > >> > section. We are more interested in establishing a strong community
> > that
> > >> can
> > >> > drive the project independently of Yahoo.
> > >> >
> > >> > == Documentation ==
> > >> > The reader will find these websites relevant:
> > >> >
> > >> > * SAMOA website: http://samoa-project.net/
> > >> > * SAMOA documentation: https://github.com/yahoo/samoa/wiki/
> > >> > * Issue tracking: https://github.com/yahoo/samoa/issues
> > >> > * Codebase: https://github.com/yahoo/samoa
> > >> > * User group: http://groups.google.com/group/samoa-user
> > >> >
> > >> > == Initial Source ==
> > >> > The SAMOA codebase is currently hosted on GitHub:
> > >> > https://github.com/yahoo/samoa. This is the exact codebase that we
> > would
> > >> > migrate to the Apache foundation.
> > >> >
> > >> > == Source and Intellectual Property Submission Plan ==
> > >> > Currently, the SAMOA codebase is distributed under an Apache license
> > >> v2.0.
> > >> > The vast majority of code has copyright held by Yahoo. Upon entering
> > the
> > >> > Incubator, Yahoo will grant a license to the Apache foundation. In
> > >> certain
> > >> > cases where individuals or organizations hold copyright, we will
> > ensure
> > >> > they grant a license to the Apache foundation. Going forward, all
> > commits
> > >> > will be licensed directly to the Apache foundation through our
> signed
> > >> > Individual Contributor License Agreements for all committers on the
> > >> project.
> > >> >
> > >> > == Cryptography ==
> > >> > We do not expect SAMOA to be a controlled export item due to the use
> > of
> > >> > encryption.
> > >> >
> > >> > == External Dependencies ==
> > >> > To the best of our knowledge, all dependencies of SAMOA are
> > distributed
> > >> > under Apache compatible licenses. Upon acceptance to the incubator,
> we
> > >> > would begin a thorough analysis of all transitive dependencies to
> > verify
> > >> > this fact and introduce license checking into the build and release
> > >> process
> > >> > (for instance integrating Apache Rat).
> > >> >
> > >> > == Required Resources ==
> > >> > === Mailing Lists ===
> > >> > We will migrate the existing SAMOA mailing lists as follows:
> > >> >
> > >> > * samoa-users@googlegroups --> us...@samoa.incubator.apache.org
> > <javascript:;>
> > >> <javascript:;>
> > >> > * samoa-developers@googlegroups --> d...@samoa.incubator.apache.org
> > <javascript:;>
> > >> <javascript:;>
> > >> >
> > >> > SAMOA commits are hosted on GitHub, so we would request the
> following
> > >> > mailing list:
> > >> >
> > >> > * comm...@samoa.incubator.apache.org <javascript:;> <javascript:;>
> > >> >
> > >> > We would also request the following mailing list:
> > >> >
> > >> > * priv...@samoa.incubator.apache.org <javascript:;> <javascript:;>
> > (with moderated
> > >> subscription)
> > >> >
> > >> > === Source control ===
> > >> > The SAMOA team would like to use Git for source control, due to our
> > >> current
> > >> > use of Git. We request a writeable Git repo for SAMOA, and mirroring
> > to
> > >> be
> > >> > set up to GitHub through INFRA.
> > >> >
> > >> > * https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-samoa.git
> > >> >
> > >> > === Issue Tracking ===
> > >> > SAMOA currently uses GitHub for issue tracking. We will migrate to
> the
> > >> > Apache JIRA instance. http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SAMOA
> > >> >
> > >> > == Initial Committers & Affiliations ==
> > >> > * Albert Bifet, Huawei, <abifet at waikato dot ac dot nz>
> > >> > * Gianmarco De Francisci Morales, Yahoo Labs, <gdfm at apache dot
> org>
> > >> > * Nicolas Kourtellis, Yahoo Labs, <nkourtellis at gmail dot com>
> > >> > * Matthieu Morel, Yahoo Labs, <mmorel at apache dot org>
> > >> > * Arinto Murdopo, Living Analytics Research Centre, <arintom at smu
> > dot
> > >> edu
> > >> > dot sg>
> > >> > * Olivier Van Laere, BlueShift Labs, <olivier at getblueshift dot
> com>
> > >> >
> > >> > == Sponsors ==
> > >> > === Champion ===
> > >> > * Daniel Dai <daijy at apache dot org>
> > >> >
> > >> > === Nominated Mentors ===
> > >> > * Alan Gates <gates at apache dot org>
> > >> > * Ted Dunning <tdunning at apache dot org>
> > >> > * Ashutosh Chauhan <hashutosh at apache dot org>
> > >> > * Enis Soztutar <enis at apache dot org>
> > >> >
> > >> > === Sponsoring Entity ===
> > >> > The Apache Incubator
> > >>
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