Ah so I stand corrected. But I am not sure if then your VOTE will bind once the project going to incubator. It would probably help for SAMOA to have you as member of IPMCs.
- Henry On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Daniel Dai <dai...@gmail.com> wrote: > Oh, I am under the impression that mentor has to be IPMC member, but > champion can be either IPMC member or Apache member: > > "Where the Champion is not a Member of the Foundation (i.e. is an Officer > only), the Champion shall be a member of the PMC of the Sponsor."( > http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html) > > Isn't it? > > On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 1:59 PM, jan i <j...@apache.org> wrote: > >> On Thursday, December 4, 2014, Henry Saputra <henry.sapu...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > I was not saying to stop it but Daniel needs to send request to >> > private@ list make sure he is part of IPMCs. >> >> Agreed, sorry if my wording sounded differently. >> >> rgds >> jan i >> >> > >> > - Henry >> > >> > On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 12:48 PM, jan i <j...@apache.org <javascript:;>> >> > wrote: >> > > On Thursday, December 4, 2014, Henry Saputra <henry.sapu...@gmail.com >> > <javascript:;>> >> > > wrote: >> > > >> > >> Daniel, >> > >> >> > >> Small formality, as I remember champion has to be member of IPMC in >> > >> which you are not. >> > >> Since you are a member of ASF, you can just send email to >> > >> private@incubator.a.o to be added as member of IPMC. >> > > >> > > >> > > I agree we need formalities to be in order, but in this case its really >> > > only paperwork, so lets not stop the process for the project. >> > > >> > > just my opinion. >> > > rgds >> > > jan i >> > > >> > >> >> > >> - Henry >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 9:27 PM, Daniel Dai <dai...@gmail.com >> > <javascript:;> >> > >> <javascript:;>> wrote: >> > >> > Hi, >> > >> > >> > >> > I would like to propose SAMOA as an Apache Incubator project. >> > >> > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/SAMOAProposal >> > >> > >> > >> > I've posted posted the text of the proposal below: >> > >> > >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > Daniel >> > >> > >> > >> > = SAMOA = >> > >> > == Abstract == >> > >> > SAMOA is an an open-source platform for mining big data streams. >> > >> > >> > >> > == Proposal == >> > >> > SAMOA provides a collection of distributed streaming algorithms for >> > the >> > >> > most common data mining and machine learning tasks such as >> > >> classification, >> > >> > clustering, and regression, as well as programming abstractions to >> > >> develop >> > >> > new algorithms that run on top of distributed stream processing >> > engines >> > >> > (DSPEs). It features a pluggable architecture that allows it to run >> on >> > >> > several DSPEs such as Apache Storm, Apache S4, and Apache Samza. >> > >> > >> > >> > == Background == >> > >> > Hadoop and its ecosystem have changed the way data are processed by >> > >> > allowing to push algorithms to unprecedented scale. As an example, >> > Mahout >> > >> > allows to run data mining and machine learning algorithms on very >> > large >> > >> > datasets. However, Hadoop and Mahout are not suited to handle >> > streaming >> > >> > data. Simply put, the goal of SAMOA is to provide a streaming >> > counterpart >> > >> > to Mahout. >> > >> > >> > >> > == Rationale == >> > >> > SAMOA aims to fill the current gap in tools for mining large scale >> > >> streams. >> > >> > Many organizations can benefit from a scalable stream mining >> platform >> > >> > system such as SAMOA. >> > >> > >> > >> > SAMOA is a natural fit for the Apache Software Foundation. It is >> > licensed >> > >> > under the ASL v2.0. It already interoperates with several existing >> > Apache >> > >> > projects such as Storm, S4, and Samza. Furthermore, it is >> > complementary >> > >> to >> > >> > existing Apache projects such as Mahout. The initial committers are >> > >> > familiar with the Apache process and subscribes to the Apache >> mission. >> > >> > Indeed, the team includes multiple Apache committers. Finally, >> joining >> > >> > Apache will help coordinate the development effort of the growing >> > number >> > >> of >> > >> > organizations which contribute to SAMOA. >> > >> > >> > >> > == Initial Goals == >> > >> > * Move the existing codebase to Apache >> > >> > * Integrate with the Apache development process >> > >> > * Incremental development and releases per Apache guidelines >> > >> > >> > >> > == Current Status == >> > >> > SAMOA started as a research project at Yahoo Labs in 2013 and was >> > >> > open-sourced in October the same year. It has been under development >> > on >> > >> > Yahoo's public GitHub repository since being open-sourced. It has >> > >> undergone >> > >> > two releases (0.1, 0.2). >> > >> > >> > >> > === Meritocracy === >> > >> > The SAMOA project already operates on meritocratic principles. >> Today, >> > >> SAMOA >> > >> > has several developers and has accepted multiple patches from >> outside >> > of >> > >> > Yahoo Labs. However, our intent with this incubator proposal is to >> > start >> > >> > building a more diverse developer community around SAMOA that >> follows >> > the >> > >> > Apache meritocracy model. We will identify all committers and PPMC >> > >> members >> > >> > for the project operating under the ASF meritocratic principles. We >> > plan >> > >> to >> > >> > continue support for new contributors and work with those who >> > contribute >> > >> > significantly to the project to make them committers. >> > >> > >> > >> > === Community === >> > >> > SAMOA is currently being used internally at Yahoo. Acceptance into >> the >> > >> > Apache foundation would bolster the existing user and developer >> > community >> > >> > around SAMOA. That community includes contributors from several >> > >> > institutions, active mostly on GitHub's pages. SAMOA has been >> starred >> > >> more >> > >> > than 300 times and forked more than 50 times on GitHub as of >> November >> > >> 2014. >> > >> > >> > >> > === Core Developers === >> > >> > The core developers are a diverse group, many of which already very >> > >> > experienced with open source. There are two existing Apache >> > committers, >> > >> > along with people from various companies and universities. >> > >> > >> > >> > === Alignment === >> > >> > The ASF is the natural choice to host SAMOA. First, its goal of >> > >> encouraging >> > >> > community-driven open-source projects fits with our vision for >> SAMOA. >> > >> > Additionally, many other projects that SAMOA is based on, such as >> > Apache >> > >> > Storm, S4, Samza, and HDFS, are hosted by the ASF. Close proximity >> of >> > >> SAMOA >> > >> > to these projects within the ASF will provide mutual benefit. >> > >> > >> > >> > == Known Risks == >> > >> > === Orphaned Products === >> > >> > Given the current level of investment in SAMOA the risk of the >> project >> > >> > being abandoned is minimal. There are several constituents who are >> > highly >> > >> > incentivized to continue development, and Yahoo Labs relies on SAMOA >> > as a >> > >> > platform for a large number of long-term research projects. However, >> > the >> > >> > small number of initial committers might be a concern. We plan to >> > address >> > >> > this issue during incubation by growing the community and the number >> > of >> > >> > committers. >> > >> > >> > >> > === Inexperience with Open Source === >> > >> > SAMOA has existed as a healthy open source project for one year. >> > During >> > >> > this time, we have curated an open-source community successfully, >> > >> > attracting developers from a diverse group of universities and >> > companies >> > >> > including Huawei, Yahoo, University of Porto, and Universitat >> > Politecnica >> > >> > de Catalunya. >> > >> > >> > >> > Gianmarco is a committer for Apache Pig, Matthieu for Apache S4. >> > Albert >> > >> is >> > >> > one of the lead developers of MOA, an open-source tool for streaming >> > >> > machine learning. >> > >> > >> > >> > === Homogenous Developers === >> > >> > The initial list of committers includes developers from several >> > >> > institutions, both academic and industrial. The committers are >> > >> > geographically distributed across Europe, America, and Asia. >> > >> > >> > >> > === Reliance on Salaried Developers === >> > >> > Like most open source projects, SAMOA receives a substantial support >> > from >> > >> > salaried developers. In addition, those working from within >> > corporations >> > >> > often devote “after hours” or spare time in the project - and these >> > come >> > >> > from several organizations. We will work to ensure the ability for >> the >> > >> > project to continuously be stewarded and to proceed forward >> > independently >> > >> > of salaried developers. >> > >> > >> > >> > === Relationship with Other Apache Products === >> > >> > SAMOA interoperates with several existing Apache project, mainly by >> > using >> > >> > them as stream processing engines: Apache Storm, Apache S4, and >> Apache >> > >> > Samza. It also uses several other Apache components, including >> Apache >> > >> Maven >> > >> > and several Apache Commons libraries. >> > >> > >> > >> > === A Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand === >> > >> > SAMOA is already a healthy and relatively well known open source >> > project. >> > >> > This proposal is not for the purpose of generating publicity. >> Rather, >> > the >> > >> > primary benefits to joining Apache are those outlined in the >> Rationale >> > >> > section. We are more interested in establishing a strong community >> > that >> > >> can >> > >> > drive the project independently of Yahoo. >> > >> > >> > >> > == Documentation == >> > >> > The reader will find these websites relevant: >> > >> > >> > >> > * SAMOA website: http://samoa-project.net/ >> > >> > * SAMOA documentation: https://github.com/yahoo/samoa/wiki/ >> > >> > * Issue tracking: https://github.com/yahoo/samoa/issues >> > >> > * Codebase: https://github.com/yahoo/samoa >> > >> > * User group: http://groups.google.com/group/samoa-user >> > >> > >> > >> > == Initial Source == >> > >> > The SAMOA codebase is currently hosted on GitHub: >> > >> > https://github.com/yahoo/samoa. This is the exact codebase that we >> > would >> > >> > migrate to the Apache foundation. >> > >> > >> > >> > == Source and Intellectual Property Submission Plan == >> > >> > Currently, the SAMOA codebase is distributed under an Apache license >> > >> v2.0. >> > >> > The vast majority of code has copyright held by Yahoo. Upon entering >> > the >> > >> > Incubator, Yahoo will grant a license to the Apache foundation. In >> > >> certain >> > >> > cases where individuals or organizations hold copyright, we will >> > ensure >> > >> > they grant a license to the Apache foundation. Going forward, all >> > commits >> > >> > will be licensed directly to the Apache foundation through our >> signed >> > >> > Individual Contributor License Agreements for all committers on the >> > >> project. >> > >> > >> > >> > == Cryptography == >> > >> > We do not expect SAMOA to be a controlled export item due to the use >> > of >> > >> > encryption. >> > >> > >> > >> > == External Dependencies == >> > >> > To the best of our knowledge, all dependencies of SAMOA are >> > distributed >> > >> > under Apache compatible licenses. Upon acceptance to the incubator, >> we >> > >> > would begin a thorough analysis of all transitive dependencies to >> > verify >> > >> > this fact and introduce license checking into the build and release >> > >> process >> > >> > (for instance integrating Apache Rat). >> > >> > >> > >> > == Required Resources == >> > >> > === Mailing Lists === >> > >> > We will migrate the existing SAMOA mailing lists as follows: >> > >> > >> > >> > * samoa-users@googlegroups --> us...@samoa.incubator.apache.org >> > <javascript:;> >> > >> <javascript:;> >> > >> > * samoa-developers@googlegroups --> d...@samoa.incubator.apache.org >> > <javascript:;> >> > >> <javascript:;> >> > >> > >> > >> > SAMOA commits are hosted on GitHub, so we would request the >> following >> > >> > mailing list: >> > >> > >> > >> > * comm...@samoa.incubator.apache.org <javascript:;> <javascript:;> >> > >> > >> > >> > We would also request the following mailing list: >> > >> > >> > >> > * priv...@samoa.incubator.apache.org <javascript:;> <javascript:;> >> > (with moderated >> > >> subscription) >> > >> > >> > >> > === Source control === >> > >> > The SAMOA team would like to use Git for source control, due to our >> > >> current >> > >> > use of Git. We request a writeable Git repo for SAMOA, and mirroring >> > to >> > >> be >> > >> > set up to GitHub through INFRA. >> > >> > >> > >> > * https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-samoa.git >> > >> > >> > >> > === Issue Tracking === >> > >> > SAMOA currently uses GitHub for issue tracking. We will migrate to >> the >> > >> > Apache JIRA instance. http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SAMOA >> > >> > >> > >> > == Initial Committers & Affiliations == >> > >> > * Albert Bifet, Huawei, <abifet at waikato dot ac dot nz> >> > >> > * Gianmarco De Francisci Morales, Yahoo Labs, <gdfm at apache dot >> org> >> > >> > * Nicolas Kourtellis, Yahoo Labs, <nkourtellis at gmail dot com> >> > >> > * Matthieu Morel, Yahoo Labs, <mmorel at apache dot org> >> > >> > * Arinto Murdopo, Living Analytics Research Centre, <arintom at smu >> > dot >> > >> edu >> > >> > dot sg> >> > >> > * Olivier Van Laere, BlueShift Labs, <olivier at getblueshift dot >> com> >> > >> > >> > >> > == Sponsors == >> > >> > === Champion === >> > >> > * Daniel Dai <daijy at apache dot org> >> > >> > >> > >> > === Nominated Mentors === >> > >> > * Alan Gates <gates at apache dot org> >> > >> > * Ted Dunning <tdunning at apache dot org> >> > >> > * Ashutosh Chauhan <hashutosh at apache dot org> >> > >> > * Enis Soztutar <enis at apache dot org> >> > >> > >> > >> > === Sponsoring Entity === >> > >> > The Apache Incubator >> > >> >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> > <javascript:;> >> > >> <javascript:;> >> > >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > <javascript:;> >> > >> <javascript:;> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Sent from My iPad, sorry for any misspellings. >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> > <javascript:;> >> > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > <javascript:;> >> > >> > >> >> -- >> Sent from My iPad, sorry for any misspellings. >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org