Upayavira, Mind if I add your comment to the wave report?
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 3:56 AM, Upayavira <u...@odoko.co.uk> wrote: > Apologies for missing the report. > > My impression also is that Wave will not, ever, make graduation, and > should seek an alternative home. > > There’s still some benefit to the project in being associated with > Apache, but I don’t see how it will ever reach a stronger position. From > the discussions I’ve witnessed, the codebase is too complex and entwined > for new contributors to engage in effectively, and that the best > approach to the problem that it attempts to solve is to start again. > That re-start may, or likely won’t, happen at the ASF. > > As a mentor, I don’t have ideas as to how to revitalise the project. > > Reluctantly, I would be supportive of moving the project elsewhere. > > Upayavira > > On Fri, Mar 13, 2015, at 06:39 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > > Hi Roman, > > > > you might have noticed, that one of the mentors (me) were actively > > asking for this report. I simply forgot to sign it, which does not > > happen often to me. In example, the last report was signed (Dec). > > > > More mentors are always welcome; but its not this podling is out on his > > own. From mentoring activities, I even joined a Google Hangout to > > clarify questions, and releases were reviewed. > > > > When it comes to the situation of this podling, it hasn't changed much. > > I wonder why you think Wave would turn the corner. > > > > From time to time I start the retirement discussion at the podling as I > > don't think Wave will get enough momentum. There is a small community, > > but they cannot dedicate enough time. My personal opinion is that it > > will not make graduation at any time, and i told that before. I am happy > > if the project turns out otherwise. > > > > That being said, I am still on mailing lists, i am still helping out, I > > just wasn't there in the past 10 days for personal reasons. > > > > Again, I wrote this response to help giving the right impression on the > > podling, not to put your good intentions down to help. I am really happy > > if somebody else would help as mentor, as well as with log4cxx and > > ripple. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Christian > > > > > > -- > > Christian Grobmeier > > grobme...@gmail.com > > > > On Fri, Mar 13, 2015, at 00:48, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > > > all throughout my tenure I was keeping an eye > > > on Wave trying to figure out how we can help > > > that community. The poddling has been incubating > > > close to 5 years and for a long time they've struggled > > > with the basics of producing the release and growing > > > the community beyond its core. > > > > > > I was extremely excited to see that this reporting cycle > > > they seem to be finally turning the corner. Unfortunately, > > > next thing I saw was that the report wasn't signed off > > > by mentors. > > > > > > I totally understand that we all get busy (hey -- I was > > > supposed to submit the final report yesterday -- totally > > > didn't happen). It is just that if the community is really > > > on the verge of turning the corner I think it really behoves > > > us to help them as much as we can. > > > > > > Thoughts on how we can revitalize mentoring around > > > Wave? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Roman. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
