On 14 June 2015 at 17:52, Joe Witt <joe.w...@gmail.com> wrote: > The community agreed on what we posted originally. Just trying to be > responsive to niclas concerns in the spirit of the discussion thread. > I was not suggesting otherwise.
> > I have forwarded the thread to our dev list which is where the adjustment > to 'interactive' came from. Should these minor rephrasings give pause in > the nifi community we will pass that forward. > +1 rgds jan i. > On Jun 14, 2015 11:33 AM, "jan i" <j...@apache.org> wrote: > > > Hi > > > > Sorry for top posting, I do understand why the resolution is being > changed, > > however it this > > really the correct place to do it. The community must be behind and > > agreeing to the resolution, > > so changes should in my opinion by discussed on your dev@ list. > > > > The IPMC should be presented with a resolution that the community agrees > > on. > > > > rgds > > jan i. > > > > > > On 14 June 2015 at 17:18, Joe Witt <joe.w...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Adjusted to clarify the 'realtime' reference which can be misleading: > > > > > > > > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best > > > interests of the Foundation and consistent with the > > > Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management > > > Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of > > > open-source software, for distribution at no charge to > > > the public, related to an automated and durable data broker > > > between systems providing interactive command and control > > > and detailed chain of custody for data. > > > > > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management > > > Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache NiFi Project", > > > be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the > > > Foundation; and be it further > > > > > > RESOLVED, that the Apache NiFi Project be and hereby is > > > responsible for the creation and maintenance of software > > > related to an automated and durable data broker > > > between systems providing interactive command and control > > > and detailed chain of custody for data; and be it further > > > > > > ... > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 7:42 AM, Niclas Hedhman <nic...@hedhman.org> > > > wrote: > > > > It is less generic, but I think I am not in a position to determine > > what > > > is > > > > suitable. The community + mentors should be a better group to discuss > > it. > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 9:55 PM, Joe Witt <joe.w...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > >> Niclas, > > > >> > > > >> I agree that the scope could be improved. It is a tough balancing > act > > > >> of course. How would about this modification: > > > >> > > > >> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best > > > >> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the > > > >> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management > > > >> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of > > > >> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to > > > >> the public, related to an automated and durable data broker > > > >> between systems providing realtime command and control > > > >> and detailed chain of custody for data. > > > >> > > > >> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management > > > >> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache NiFi Project", > > > >> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the > > > >> Foundation; and be it further > > > >> > > > >> RESOLVED, that the Apache NiFi Project be and hereby is > > > >> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software > > > >> related to an automated and durable data broker > > > >> between systems providing realtime command and control > > > >> and detailed chain of custody for data; and be it further > > > >> > > > >> ... > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Thanks > > > >> Joe > > > >> > > > >> On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 10:25 PM, Niclas Hedhman < > nic...@hedhman.org> > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > From the peanut gallery; > > > >> > Doesn't > > > >> > "related to the automated and managed flow of information > > between > > > >> > systems" > > > >> > apply to at least half of all software out there? > > > >> > > > > >> > In other words, the scope is very wide, and could include anything > > > from > > > >> > SNMP to Apache Mesos and much much more. I think the Board will be > > > >> happier > > > >> > with a somewhat more narrow definition. > > > >> > > > > >> > Cheers > > > >> > Niclas > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 1:04 AM, jan i <j...@apache.org> wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> >> thanks for the responses I will cast a +1 at vote time. > > > >> >> > > > >> >> sorry for asking the questions, but I was insecure. > > > >> >> > > > >> >> rgds > > > >> >> jan i > > > >> >> > > > >> >> On Friday, June 12, 2015, Benson Margulies < > bimargul...@gmail.com> > > > >> wrote: > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Sean sure makes more sense than me. > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Joe Witt <joe.w...@gmail.com > > > >> >> > <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > >> >> > > Sean is one of those folks i referred to. Id be an easy +1 > > > >> >> > > On Jun 12, 2015 9:24 AM, "Andrew Purtell" < > apurt...@apache.org > > > >> >> > <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > >> As Sean says he's been engaged with the project while acting > > as > > > >> >> mentor, > > > >> >> > >> IMHO beyond mentor-ly duties. If the NiFi folks will have > him > > on > > > >> the > > > >> >> > >> initial PMC and he's willing to join it, this should resolve > > the > > > >> >> stated > > > >> >> > >> concerns. > > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> > >> On Friday, June 12, 2015, Sean Busbey <bus...@cloudera.com > > > >> >> > <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> > >> > On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 9:40 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz < > > > >> >> > >> > bdelacre...@apache.org <javascript:;> <javascript:;> > > > >> >> > >> > > wrote: > > > >> >> > >> > > > > >> >> > >> > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 3:53 PM, Sean Busbey < > > > >> bus...@cloudera.com > > > >> >> > <javascript:;> > > > >> >> > >> > <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > >> >> > >> > > > ...I have no reason to believe either my engagement or > > the > > > >> >> PPMC's > > > >> >> > >> > > willingness > > > >> >> > >> > > > to reach out to or listen to what I have to say will > > > change > > > >> upon > > > >> >> > >> > > > graduation, so I don't think they need a checkbox ASF > > > member > > > >> on > > > >> >> > the > > > >> >> > >> > > initial > > > >> >> > >> > > > PMC and I'd prefer they not add one... > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > >> >> > >> > > It's not about ticking a checkbox - it's about an ASF > > member > > > >> >> > agreeing > > > >> >> > >> > > to stay with the project to help here and there with > > things > > > >> where > > > >> >> > >> > > members can help. > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > >> >> > >> > Understood. I can't speak for any other ASF member, but > I'm > > > >> already > > > >> >> > >> there, > > > >> >> > >> > engaged, and planning to stay. I don't need a binding PMC > > vote > > > >> to do > > > >> >> > >> that. > > > >> >> > >> > > > > >> >> > >> > -- > > > >> >> > >> > Sean > > > >> >> > >> > > > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> > >> -- > > > >> >> > >> Best regards, > > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> > >> - Andy > > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> > >> Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting > back. - > > > Piet > > > >> >> Hein > > > >> >> > >> (via Tom White) > > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >> >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > >> >> > <javascript:;> > > > >> >> > For additional commands, e-mail: > > general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > >> >> > <javascript:;> > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > >> >> -- > > > >> >> Sent from My iPad, sorry for any misspellings. > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > -- > > > >> > Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer > > > >> > http://zest.apache.org - New Energy for Java > > > >> > > > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer > > > > http://zest.apache.org - New Energy for Java > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > >
