I was hoping to see how things settle out through the rest of the day and then kick off a vote tomorrow or Wednesday. We had hoped that if all goes well we'd be an option for the July meeting. So, no rush I think.
Thanks Joe On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 11:47 AM, Andrew Purtell <apurt...@apache.org> wrote: > 72 hours is customary as minimum. That would miss the Board meeting this > week. > > > On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:44 AM, Sean Busbey <bus...@cloudera.com> wrote: > >> It sounds like we have consensus. Is there a minimum voting period? Any >> chance we could get this through in time for the NiFi proposal to make the >> Board meeting this week? >> >> On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 12:26 PM, jan i <j...@apache.org> wrote: >> >> > On 14 June 2015 at 17:52, Joe Witt <joe.w...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > > The community agreed on what we posted originally. Just trying to be >> > > responsive to niclas concerns in the spirit of the discussion thread. >> > > >> > I was not suggesting otherwise. >> > >> > > >> > > I have forwarded the thread to our dev list which is where the >> adjustment >> > > to 'interactive' came from. Should these minor rephrasings give pause >> in >> > > the nifi community we will pass that forward. >> > > >> > +1 >> > rgds >> > jan i. >> > >> > >> > >> > > On Jun 14, 2015 11:33 AM, "jan i" <j...@apache.org> wrote: >> > > >> > > > Hi >> > > > >> > > > Sorry for top posting, I do understand why the resolution is being >> > > changed, >> > > > however it this >> > > > really the correct place to do it. The community must be behind and >> > > > agreeing to the resolution, >> > > > so changes should in my opinion by discussed on your dev@ list. >> > > > >> > > > The IPMC should be presented with a resolution that the community >> > agrees >> > > > on. >> > > > >> > > > rgds >> > > > jan i. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > On 14 June 2015 at 17:18, Joe Witt <joe.w...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > Adjusted to clarify the 'realtime' reference which can be >> misleading: >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best >> > > > > interests of the Foundation and consistent with the >> > > > > Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management >> > > > > Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of >> > > > > open-source software, for distribution at no charge to >> > > > > the public, related to an automated and durable data broker >> > > > > between systems providing interactive command and control >> > > > > and detailed chain of custody for data. >> > > > > >> > > > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management >> > > > > Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache NiFi Project", >> > > > > be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the >> > > > > Foundation; and be it further >> > > > > >> > > > > RESOLVED, that the Apache NiFi Project be and hereby is >> > > > > responsible for the creation and maintenance of software >> > > > > related to an automated and durable data broker >> > > > > between systems providing interactive command and control >> > > > > and detailed chain of custody for data; and be it further >> > > > > >> > > > > ... >> > > > > >> > > > > On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 7:42 AM, Niclas Hedhman < >> nic...@hedhman.org> >> > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > It is less generic, but I think I am not in a position to >> determine >> > > > what >> > > > > is >> > > > > > suitable. The community + mentors should be a better group to >> > discuss >> > > > it. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 9:55 PM, Joe Witt <joe.w...@gmail.com> >> > > wrote: >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> Niclas, >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> I agree that the scope could be improved. It is a tough >> balancing >> > > act >> > > > > >> of course. How would about this modification: >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best >> > > > > >> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the >> > > > > >> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management >> > > > > >> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of >> > > > > >> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to >> > > > > >> the public, related to an automated and durable data broker >> > > > > >> between systems providing realtime command and control >> > > > > >> and detailed chain of custody for data. >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management >> > > > > >> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache NiFi Project", >> > > > > >> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the >> > > > > >> Foundation; and be it further >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> RESOLVED, that the Apache NiFi Project be and hereby is >> > > > > >> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software >> > > > > >> related to an automated and durable data broker >> > > > > >> between systems providing realtime command and control >> > > > > >> and detailed chain of custody for data; and be it further >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> ... >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> Thanks >> > > > > >> Joe >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 10:25 PM, Niclas Hedhman < >> > > nic...@hedhman.org> >> > > > > >> wrote: >> > > > > >> > From the peanut gallery; >> > > > > >> > Doesn't >> > > > > >> > "related to the automated and managed flow of information >> > > > between >> > > > > >> > systems" >> > > > > >> > apply to at least half of all software out there? >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > In other words, the scope is very wide, and could include >> > anything >> > > > > from >> > > > > >> > SNMP to Apache Mesos and much much more. I think the Board >> will >> > be >> > > > > >> happier >> > > > > >> > with a somewhat more narrow definition. >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > Cheers >> > > > > >> > Niclas >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 1:04 AM, jan i <j...@apache.org> >> wrote: >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> >> thanks for the responses I will cast a +1 at vote time. >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> sorry for asking the questions, but I was insecure. >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> rgds >> > > > > >> >> jan i >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> On Friday, June 12, 2015, Benson Margulies < >> > > bimargul...@gmail.com> >> > > > > >> wrote: >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> > Sean sure makes more sense than me. >> > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > >> >> > On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Joe Witt < >> > joe.w...@gmail.com >> > > > > >> >> > <javascript:;>> wrote: >> > > > > >> >> > > Sean is one of those folks i referred to. Id be an easy >> +1 >> > > > > >> >> > > On Jun 12, 2015 9:24 AM, "Andrew Purtell" < >> > > apurt...@apache.org >> > > > > >> >> > <javascript:;>> wrote: >> > > > > >> >> > > >> > > > > >> >> > >> As Sean says he's been engaged with the project while >> > acting >> > > > as >> > > > > >> >> mentor, >> > > > > >> >> > >> IMHO beyond mentor-ly duties. If the NiFi folks will >> have >> > > him >> > > > on >> > > > > >> the >> > > > > >> >> > >> initial PMC and he's willing to join it, this should >> > resolve >> > > > the >> > > > > >> >> stated >> > > > > >> >> > >> concerns. >> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > > > > >> >> > >> On Friday, June 12, 2015, Sean Busbey < >> > bus...@cloudera.com >> > > > > >> >> > <javascript:;>> wrote: >> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > > > > >> >> > >> > On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 9:40 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz < >> > > > > >> >> > >> > bdelacre...@apache.org <javascript:;> <javascript:;> >> > > > > >> >> > >> > > wrote: >> > > > > >> >> > >> > >> > > > > >> >> > >> > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 3:53 PM, Sean Busbey < >> > > > > >> bus...@cloudera.com >> > > > > >> >> > <javascript:;> >> > > > > >> >> > >> > <javascript:;>> wrote: >> > > > > >> >> > >> > > > ...I have no reason to believe either my >> engagement >> > or >> > > > the >> > > > > >> >> PPMC's >> > > > > >> >> > >> > > willingness >> > > > > >> >> > >> > > > to reach out to or listen to what I have to say >> will >> > > > > change >> > > > > >> upon >> > > > > >> >> > >> > > > graduation, so I don't think they need a checkbox >> > ASF >> > > > > member >> > > > > >> on >> > > > > >> >> > the >> > > > > >> >> > >> > > initial >> > > > > >> >> > >> > > > PMC and I'd prefer they not add one... >> > > > > >> >> > >> > > >> > > > > >> >> > >> > > It's not about ticking a checkbox - it's about an >> ASF >> > > > member >> > > > > >> >> > agreeing >> > > > > >> >> > >> > > to stay with the project to help here and there with >> > > > things >> > > > > >> where >> > > > > >> >> > >> > > members can help. >> > > > > >> >> > >> > > >> > > > > >> >> > >> > > >> > > > > >> >> > >> > >> > > > > >> >> > >> > Understood. I can't speak for any other ASF member, >> but >> > > I'm >> > > > > >> already >> > > > > >> >> > >> there, >> > > > > >> >> > >> > engaged, and planning to stay. I don't need a binding >> > PMC >> > > > vote >> > > > > >> to do >> > > > > >> >> > >> that. >> > > > > >> >> > >> > >> > > > > >> >> > >> > -- >> > > > > >> >> > >> > Sean >> > > > > >> >> > >> > >> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > > > > >> >> > >> -- >> > > > > >> >> > >> Best regards, >> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > > > > >> >> > >> - Andy >> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > > > > >> >> > >> Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting >> > > back. - >> > > > > Piet >> > > > > >> >> Hein >> > > > > >> >> > >> (via Tom White) >> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > > > >> >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> > > general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> > > > > >> >> > <javascript:;> >> > > > > >> >> > For additional commands, e-mail: >> > > > general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > > > > >> >> > <javascript:;> >> > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> -- >> > > > > >> >> Sent from My iPad, sorry for any misspellings. >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > -- >> > > > > >> > Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer >> > > > > >> > http://zest.apache.org - New Energy for Java >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> > > > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: >> > general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > -- >> > > > > > Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer >> > > > > > http://zest.apache.org - New Energy for Java >> > > > > >> > > > > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Sean >> > > > > -- > Best regards, > > - Andy > > Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein > (via Tom White) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
