On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 09:08PM, Branko Čibej wrote: > On 29.07.2015 19:51, Greg Stein wrote: > > On Jul 29, 2015 12:45 PM, "Konstantin Boudnik" <c...@apache.org> wrote: > >> On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 12:25PM, Greg Stein wrote: > >>> On Jul 29, 2015 11:37 AM, "Branko Čibej" <br...@apache.org> wrote: > >>>> On 29.07.2015 18:14, Joe Brockmeier wrote: > >>>>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2015, at 03:19 AM, Branko Čibej wrote: > >>>>>> Personally I'm not too happy with how this community tracks > > issues, but > >>>>>> hey, if it works for them, why fix it? It'll be a fine day when the > >>> IPMC > >>>>>> starts telling podlings how their development workflow should look > >>> like. > >>>>> Does "works for them" translate into "people not currently in the > >>>>> community can follow how the existing community tracks issues, so > > they > >>>>> can contribute and become part of the community"? If so, then maybe > > it's > >>>>> OK. If it's not transparent to folks not currently part of that > >>>>> community, it's hard to see how the community will sustain itself > > with > >>>>> new members as other folks inevitably move on to other projects. > >>>> Given that new contributors keep showing up on a regular basis, I have > >>>> to assume that it's not so opaque as all that. > >>>> > >>>> Anyway, Ignite has been discussing and implementing a revised (and IMO > >>>> better) set of policies for Jira use and git workflow since this > >>>> discussion started; other than displaying an incomprehensible > > preference > >>>> for RTC, it seems to be going well. > >>> I always translate RTC as "we don't trust you, so somebody else must > >>> approve anything you do." > >>> > >>> To me, that is a lousy basis for creating a community. Trust and peer > >>> respect should be the basis, which implies CTR. I have seen many excuses > >>> for RTC, but they all are just window dressing over mistrust. > >> While I tend to agree with you, it worth noting that there's a whole > > bunch of > >> TLPs sticking to RTC. So, this data point doesn't reflect on the podling > > in > >> question. > > And POW!! There is one excuse on display already :-P > > > > "But others do it." > > How 'bout I propose a board resolution forbidding RTC at the ASF for > mainline development? :)
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