Hi Rob, On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 7:56 AM Rob Weir <r...@robweir.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 6:25 AM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> > wrote: > > All, > > > > I'd like to bring to your attention the ODF Toolkit podling. > > > > This podling has been incubating for over 4 years now. Last month they > > filed a report without mentor sign off, without any feedback on the > mailing > > list. They have remained partially active throughout the 4 years, but > from > > what I can tell suffering a bit in community growth. I'd like to seek > > input from the incubator on how to potentially resolve this and maybe get > > help for this podling. > > > > John > > > I am the mentor who did not sign off last month. You may have noticed > that the podling has been filing nearly identical reports for some > time now. I'd sum up accomplishments to date as: > > 1) We've done a few podling releases. > > 2) IP review is in good shape > > 3) Community gets along well, no significant frictions > > 4) Community has added new committers outside the original PPMC, but > has also lost its original corporate-sponsored developers. > > 5) The code is being used, as seen by incoming traffic on users list > and occasional patch submissions > I have noticed that. Has the podling been made aware that the report shouldn't be a copy and paste, and that stagnating growth is probably not a good sign? It would help to explain why their report wasn't signed off on. > > These are all good steps towards graduation. However, the community > thinks, and I tend to agree, that the activity level is too low to > sustain a TLP. If we were able to attract another 2 or 3 active > developers we would be in great shape. As mentor I've given advice > when asked, and when I thought needed. But I'm not standing there > with a whip and a megaphone telling them what to do. I don't think > that makes a sustainable community. > > I don't think shuffling the code around within Apache, to another > project (or Podling) really solves anything. The Attic is one option, > but my guess is that would end the podling but not the (albeit small) > community. They would probably just set up on github and continue > with the same pace of activity, with a lighterweight process, outside > of Apache. So, personally, I don't think the Attic would be the death > of the ODF Toolkit. > The attic should be considered only as a last stitch effort, all other attempts at resolving the podling have been tried and failed. > > Regards, > > -Rob > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
