As this discussion is taking place someone just asked to join the project....
On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 3:34 AM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote: > I recollect seeing a retiring podling with releases go to the attic. If that > is not correct or it was an exceptional case then thanks for the correction. > > What would be done with domain names? The podling came in with the domain > name offtoolkit.org. What happens to that? > > Regards, > Dave > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 3, 2015, at 10:00 PM, Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> The Attic is for Apache projects. Podlings are simply retired/removed. >>> On Sep 4, 2015 9:23 AM, "Dave Fisher" <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Sep 3, 2015, at 5:12 AM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Rob, >>>>> On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 7:56 AM Rob Weir <r...@robweir.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 6:25 AM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> All, >>>>>> >>>>>> I'd like to bring to your attention the ODF Toolkit podling. >>>>>> >>>>>> This podling has been incubating for over 4 years now. Last month they >>>>>> filed a report without mentor sign off, without any feedback on the >>>>> mailing >>>>>> list. They have remained partially active throughout the 4 years, but >>>>> from >>>>>> what I can tell suffering a bit in community growth. I'd like to seek >>>>>> input from the incubator on how to potentially resolve this and maybe >>> get >>>>>> help for this podling. >>>>>> >>>>>> John >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I am the mentor who did not sign off last month. You may have noticed >>>>> that the podling has been filing nearly identical reports for some >>>>> time now. I'd sum up accomplishments to date as: >>>>> >>>>> 1) We've done a few podling releases. >>>>> >>>>> 2) IP review is in good shape >>>>> >>>>> 3) Community gets along well, no significant frictions >>>>> >>>>> 4) Community has added new committers outside the original PPMC, but >>>>> has also lost its original corporate-sponsored developers. >>>>> >>>>> 5) The code is being used, as seen by incoming traffic on users list >>>>> and occasional patch submissions >>>> >>>> I have noticed that. Has the podling been made aware that the report >>>> shouldn't be a copy and paste, and that stagnating growth is probably >>> not a >>>> good sign? It would help to explain why their report wasn't signed off >>> on. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> These are all good steps towards graduation. However, the community >>>>> thinks, and I tend to agree, that the activity level is too low to >>>>> sustain a TLP. If we were able to attract another 2 or 3 active >>>>> developers we would be in great shape. As mentor I've given advice >>>>> when asked, and when I thought needed. But I'm not standing there >>>>> with a whip and a megaphone telling them what to do. I don't think >>>>> that makes a sustainable community. >>>>> >>>>> I don't think shuffling the code around within Apache, to another >>>>> project (or Podling) really solves anything. The Attic is one option, >>>>> but my guess is that would end the podling but not the (albeit small) >>>>> community. They would probably just set up on github and continue >>>>> with the same pace of activity, with a lighterweight process, outside >>>>> of Apache. So, personally, I don't think the Attic would be the death >>>>> of the ODF Toolkit. >>>> >>>> The attic should be considered only as a last stitch effort, all other >>>> attempts at resolving the podling have been tried and failed. >>> >>> Nothing stops anyone from forking the podling to another location. The >>> incubator would need to do something with the code. That would be to put it >>> in the attic as an archive, as not maintained any longer. >>> >>> This is decision for the community such as it is to make. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Dave >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> -Rob >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>> >>> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > -- Cheers, Ian C --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
