The Attic is for Apache projects. Podlings are simply retired/removed. On Sep 4, 2015 9:23 AM, "Dave Fisher" <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Sep 3, 2015, at 5:12 AM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > Hi Rob, > >> On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 7:56 AM Rob Weir <r...@robweir.com> wrote: > >> > >> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 6:25 AM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> > >> wrote: > >>> All, > >>> > >>> I'd like to bring to your attention the ODF Toolkit podling. > >>> > >>> This podling has been incubating for over 4 years now. Last month they > >>> filed a report without mentor sign off, without any feedback on the > >> mailing > >>> list. They have remained partially active throughout the 4 years, but > >> from > >>> what I can tell suffering a bit in community growth. I'd like to seek > >>> input from the incubator on how to potentially resolve this and maybe > get > >>> help for this podling. > >>> > >>> John > >> > >> > >> I am the mentor who did not sign off last month. You may have noticed > >> that the podling has been filing nearly identical reports for some > >> time now. I'd sum up accomplishments to date as: > >> > >> 1) We've done a few podling releases. > >> > >> 2) IP review is in good shape > >> > >> 3) Community gets along well, no significant frictions > >> > >> 4) Community has added new committers outside the original PPMC, but > >> has also lost its original corporate-sponsored developers. > >> > >> 5) The code is being used, as seen by incoming traffic on users list > >> and occasional patch submissions > > > > I have noticed that. Has the podling been made aware that the report > > shouldn't be a copy and paste, and that stagnating growth is probably > not a > > good sign? It would help to explain why their report wasn't signed off > on. > > > > > > > > > >> > >> These are all good steps towards graduation. However, the community > >> thinks, and I tend to agree, that the activity level is too low to > >> sustain a TLP. If we were able to attract another 2 or 3 active > >> developers we would be in great shape. As mentor I've given advice > >> when asked, and when I thought needed. But I'm not standing there > >> with a whip and a megaphone telling them what to do. I don't think > >> that makes a sustainable community. > >> > >> I don't think shuffling the code around within Apache, to another > >> project (or Podling) really solves anything. The Attic is one option, > >> but my guess is that would end the podling but not the (albeit small) > >> community. They would probably just set up on github and continue > >> with the same pace of activity, with a lighterweight process, outside > >> of Apache. So, personally, I don't think the Attic would be the death > >> of the ODF Toolkit. > > > > The attic should be considered only as a last stitch effort, all other > > attempts at resolving the podling have been tried and failed. > > Nothing stops anyone from forking the podling to another location. The > incubator would need to do something with the code. That would be to put it > in the attic as an archive, as not maintained any longer. > > This is decision for the community such as it is to make. > > Regards, > Dave > > > > > > > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> -Rob > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >> > >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
