Great proposal. I would also like to contribute to the project especially
the Python SDK, if possible.

Cheers
Ajay Yadava

On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 1:25 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net>
wrote:

> Hi Seshu,
>
> it does both: streaming and batching data processing.
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> On 01/23/2016 03:01 PM, Adunuthula, Seshu wrote:
>
>> Did not get a chance to play with it yet, Within Google is it used more as
>> a MR replacement or a Stream processing engine? Or it does both of them
>> fantastically well?
>>
>>
>> On 1/22/16, 10:58 AM, "Frances Perry" <f...@google.com.INVALID> wrote:
>>
>> Crunch started as a clone of FlumeJava, which was Google internal. In the
>>> meantime inside Google, FlumeJava evolved into Dataflow. So all three
>>> share
>>> a number of concepts like PCollections, ParDo, DoFn, etc. However,
>>> Dataflow
>>> adds a number of new things -- the biggest being a unified
>>> batch/streaming
>>> semantics using concepts like Windowing and Triggers. Tyler Akidau's
>>> OReilly post has a really nice explanation:
>>> https://www.oreilly.com/ideas/the-world-beyond-batch-streaming-102
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Ashish <paliwalash...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Crunch has Spark pipelines, but not sure about the runner abstraction.
>>>>
>>>> May be Josh Wills or Tom White can provide more insight on this topic.
>>>> They are core devs for both projects :)
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know deeply Crunch, but AFAIK, Crunch creates MapReduce
>>>>>
>>>> pipeline, it
>>>>
>>>>> doesn't provide runner abstraction. It's based on FlumeJava.
>>>>>
>>>>> The logic is very similar (with DoFns, pipelines, ...). Correct me if
>>>>>
>>>> I'm
>>>>
>>>>> wrong, but Crunch started after Google Dataflow, especially because
>>>>>
>>>> Dataflow
>>>>
>>>>> was not opensourced at that time.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, I agree it's very similar/close.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> JB
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 01/22/2016 05:51 PM, Ashish wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi JB,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Curious to know about how it compares to Apache Crunch? Constructs
>>>>>> looks very familiar (had used Crunch long ago)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Ashish
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 6:33 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>>
>>>>> <j...@nanthrax.net>
>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Seshu,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I blogged about Apache Dataflow proposal:
>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net/2016/01/introducing-apache-dataflow/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can see in the "what's next ?" section that new runners, skins
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> and
>>>>
>>>>> sources are on our roadmap. Definitely, a storm runner could be
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> part of
>>>>
>>>>> this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 01/22/2016 03:31 PM, Adunuthula, Seshu wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Awesome to see CloudDataFlow coming to Apache. The Stream
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Processing
>>>>
>>>>> area
>>>>>>>> has been in general fragmented with a variety of solutions, hoping
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>> community galvanizes around Apache Data Flow.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We are still in the "Apache Storm" world, Any chance for folks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> building
>>>>
>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> "Storm Runner²?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 1/20/16, 9:39 AM, "James Malone"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <jamesmal...@google.com.INVALID>
>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Great proposal. I like that your proposal includes a well
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> presented
>>>>
>>>>> roadmap, but I don't see any goals that directly address
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> building a
>>>>
>>>>> larger
>>>>>>>>>> community. Y'all have any ideas around outreach that will help
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>
>>>>> adoption?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you and fair point. We have a few additional ideas which we
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> can
>>>>
>>>>> put
>>>>>>>>> into the Community section.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As a start, I recommend y'all add a section to the proposal on
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>> wiki
>>>>>>>>>> page for "Additional Interested Contributors" so that folks who
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> sign up to participate in the project can do so without
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> requesting
>>>>
>>>>> additions to the initial committer list.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is a great idea and I think it makes a lot of sense to add an
>>>>>>>>> "Additional
>>>>>>>>> Interested Contributors" section to the proposal.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 10:32 AM, James Malone <
>>>>>>>>>> jamesmal...@google.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Attached to this message is a proposed new project - Apache
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dataflow,
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> unified programming model for data processing and integration.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The text of the proposal is included below. Additionally, the
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> proposal is
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> in draft form on the wiki where we will make any required
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> changes:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/DataflowProposal
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We look forward to your feedback and input.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> James
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ----
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> = Apache Dataflow =
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> == Abstract ==
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dataflow is an open source, unified model and set of
>>>>>>>>>>> language-specific
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> SDKs
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> for defining and executing data processing workflows, and also
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> data
>>>>
>>>>> ingestion and integration flows, supporting Enterprise
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Integration
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Patterns
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> (EIPs) and Domain Specific Languages (DSLs). Dataflow pipelines
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> simplify
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the mechanics of large-scale batch and streaming data processing
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> run on a number of runtimes like Apache Flink, Apache Spark, and
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Google
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cloud Dataflow (a cloud service). Dataflow also brings DSL in
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> languages, allowing users to easily implement their data
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> integration
>>>>
>>>>> processes.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> == Proposal ==
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dataflow is a simple, flexible, and powerful system for
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> distributed
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> data
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> processing at any scale. Dataflow provides a unified programming
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> model, a
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> software development kit to define and construct data processing
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> pipelines,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and runners to execute Dataflow pipelines in several runtime
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> engines,
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Apache Spark, Apache Flink, or Google Cloud Dataflow. Dataflow
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>> be
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> used
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> for a variety of streaming or batch data processing goals
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> including
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ETL,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> stream analysis, and aggregate computation. The underlying
>>>>>>>>>>> programming
>>>>>>>>>>> model for Dataflow provides MapReduce-like parallelism, combined
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>
>>>>> support for powerful data windowing, and fine-grained
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> correctness
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> control.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> == Background ==
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dataflow started as a set of Google projects focused on making
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> data
>>>>
>>>>> processing easier, faster, and less costly. The Dataflow model
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> is a
>>>>
>>>>> successor to MapReduce, FlumeJava, and Millwheel inside Google
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>> is
>>>>
>>>>> focused on providing a unified solution for batch and stream
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> processing.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> These projects on which Dataflow is based have been published in
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> several
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> papers made available to the public:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * MapReduce - http://research.google.com/archive/mapreduce.html
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * Dataflow model  -
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.vldb.org/pvldb/vol8/p1792-Akidau.pdf
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * FlumeJava - http://notes.stephenholiday.com/FlumeJava.pdf
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * MillWheel - http://research.google.com/pubs/pub41378.html
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dataflow was designed from the start to provide a portable
>>>>>>>>>>> programming
>>>>>>>>>>> layer. When you define a data processing pipeline with the
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dataflow
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> model,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> you are creating a job which is capable of being processed by
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> number
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dataflow processing engines. Several engines have been
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> developed to
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dataflow pipelines in other open source runtimes, including a
>>>>>>>>>>> Dataflow
>>>>>>>>>>> runner for Apache Flink and Apache Spark. There is also a
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ³direct
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> runner²,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> for execution on the developer machine (mainly for dev/debug
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> purposes).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Another runner allows a Dataflow program to run on a managed
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> service,
>>>>
>>>>> Google Cloud Dataflow, in Google Cloud Platform. The Dataflow
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Java
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> SDK is
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> already available on GitHub, and independent from the Google
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cloud
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dataflow
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> service. Another Python SDK is currently in active development.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In this proposal, the Dataflow SDKs, model, and a set of runners
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> submitted as an OSS project under the ASF. The runners which
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> are a
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> part
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> this proposal include those for Spark (from Cloudera), Flink
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (from
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> data
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Artisans), and local development (from Google); the Google Cloud
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dataflow
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> service runner is not included in this proposal. Further
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> references
>>>>
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> Dataflow will refer to the Dataflow model, SDKs, and runners
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> are a
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> part of this proposal (Apache Dataflow) only. The initial
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> submission
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> contain the already-released Java SDK; Google intends to submit
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Python
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> SDK later in the incubation process. The Google Cloud Dataflow
>>>>>>>>>>> service
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> continue to be one of many runners for Dataflow, built on Google
>>>>>>>>>>> Cloud
>>>>>>>>>>> Platform, to run Dataflow pipelines. Necessarily, Cloud Dataflow
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>
>>>>> develop against the Apache project additions, updates, and
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> changes.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Google
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cloud Dataflow will become one user of Apache Dataflow and will
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> participate
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> in the project openly and publicly.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The Dataflow programming model has been designed with
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> simplicity,
>>>>
>>>>> scalability, and speed as key tenants. In the Dataflow model,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>
>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> to think about four top-level concepts when constructing your
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> data
>>>>
>>>>> processing job:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * Pipelines - The data processing job made of a series of
>>>>>>>>>>> computations
>>>>>>>>>>> including input, processing, and output
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * PCollections - Bounded (or unbounded) datasets which represent
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> input,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> intermediate and output data in pipelines
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * PTransforms - A data processing step in a pipeline in which
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>> or
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> PCollections are an input and output
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * I/O Sources and Sinks - APIs for reading and writing data
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>> are
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> roots and endpoints of the pipeline
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> == Rationale ==
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> With Dataflow, Google intended to develop a framework which
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> allowed
>>>>
>>>>> developers to be maximally productive in defining the
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> processing,
>>>> and
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> be able to execute the program at various levels of
>>>>>>>>>>> latency/cost/completeness without re-architecting or re-writing
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> goal was informed by Google¹s past experience  developing
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> several
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> models,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> frameworks, and tools useful for large-scale and distributed
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> data
>>>>
>>>>> processing. While Google has previously published papers
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> describing
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> its technologies, Google decided to take a different approach
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>
>>>>> Dataflow. Google open-sourced the SDK and model alongside
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> commercialization
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> of the idea and ahead of publishing papers on the topic. As a
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> result,
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> number of open source runtimes exist for Dataflow, such as the
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Apache
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Flink
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and Apache Spark runners.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We believe that submitting Dataflow as an Apache project will
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> provide
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> immediate, worthwhile, and substantial contribution to the open
>>>>>>>>>>> source
>>>>>>>>>>> community. As an incubating project, we believe Dataflow will
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>> a
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> better
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> opportunity to provide a meaningful contribution to OSS and also
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> integrate
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> with other Apache projects.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In the long term, we believe Dataflow can be a powerful
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> abstraction
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> layer
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> for data processing. By providing an abstraction layer for data
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> pipelines
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and processing, data workflows can be increasingly portable,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> resilient to
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> breaking changes in tooling, and compatible across many
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> execution
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> engines,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> runtimes, and open source projects.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> == Initial Goals ==
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We are breaking our initial goals into immediate (< 2 months),
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> short-term
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> (2-4 months), and intermediate-term (> 4 months).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Our immediate goals include the following:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * Plan for reconciling the Dataflow Java SDK and various runners
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> into
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> project
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * Plan for refactoring the existing Java SDK for better
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> extensibility
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> SDK and runner writers
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * Validating all dependencies are ASL 2.0 or compatible
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * Understanding and adapting to the Apache development process
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Our short-term goals include:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * Moving the newly-merged lists, and build utilities to Apache
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * Start refactoring codebase and move code to Apache Git repo
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * Continue development of new features, functions, and fixes in
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>> Dataflow Java SDK, and Dataflow runners
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * Cleaning up the Dataflow SDK sources and crafting a roadmap
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>
>>>>> plan
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> how to include new major ideas, modules, and runtimes
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * Establishment of easy and clear build/test framework for
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dataflow
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> associated runtimes; creation of testing, rollback, and
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> validation
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> policy
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * Analysis and design for work needed to make Dataflow a better
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> data
>>>>
>>>>> processing abstraction layer for multiple open source frameworks
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>
>>>>> environments
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Finally, we have a number of intermediate-term goals:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * Roadmapping, planning, and execution of integrations with
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> other
>>>> OSS
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> non-OSS projects/products
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * Inclusion of additional SDK for Python, which is under active
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> development
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> == Current Status ==
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> === Meritocracy ===
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dataflow was initially developed based on ideas from many
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> employees
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> within
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Google. As an ASL OSS project on GitHub, the Dataflow SDK has
>>>>>>>>>>> received
>>>>>>>>>>> contributions from data Artisans, Cloudera Labs, and other
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> individual
>>>>
>>>>> developers. As a project under incubation, we are committed to
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> expanding
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> our effort to build an environment which supports a
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> meritocracy. We
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> focused on engaging the community and other related projects for
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> support
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and contributions. Moreover, we are committed to ensure
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> contributors
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> committers to Dataflow come from a broad mix of organizations
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> through
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> merit-based decision process during incubation. We believe
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> strongly
>>>>
>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dataflow model and are committed to growing an inclusive
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> community
>>>> of
>>>>
>>>>> Dataflow contributors.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> === Community ===
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The core of the Dataflow Java SDK has been developed by Google
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>
>>>>> use
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Google Cloud Dataflow. Google has active community engagement in
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> SDK
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> GitHub repository (
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/DataflowJavaSDK
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ),
>>>>>>>>>>> on Stack Overflow (
>>>>>>>>>>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/google-cloud-dataflow)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> had contributions from a number of organizations and
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> indivuduals.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Everyday, Cloud Dataflow is actively used by a number of
>>>>>>>>>>> organizations
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> institutions for batch and stream processing of data. We believe
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> acceptance
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> will allow us to consolidate existing Dataflow-related work,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> grow
>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>> Dataflow community, and deepen connections between Dataflow and
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> open
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> source projects.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> === Core Developers ===
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The core developers for Dataflow and the Dataflow runners are:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * Frances Perry
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * Tyler Akidau
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * Davor Bonaci
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * Luke Cwik
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * Ben Chambers
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * Kenn Knowles
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * Dan Halperin
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * Daniel Mills
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * Mark Shields
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * Craig Chambers
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * Maximilian Michels
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * Tom White
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * Josh Wills
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> === Alignment ===
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The Dataflow SDK can be used to create Dataflow pipelines which
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>
>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>> executed on Apache Spark or Apache Flink. Dataflow is also
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> related
>>>> to
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Apache projects, such as Apache Crunch. We plan on expanding
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> functionality
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> for Dataflow runners, support for additional domain specific
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> languages,
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> increased portability so Dataflow is a powerful abstraction
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> layer
>>>> for
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> data
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> processing.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> == Known Risks ==
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> === Orphaned Products ===
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The Dataflow SDK is presently used by several organizations,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> small
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> startups to Fortune 100 companies, to construct production
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> pipelines
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> are executed in Google Cloud Dataflow. Google has a long-term
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> commitment
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> advance the Dataflow SDK; moreover, Dataflow is seeing
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> increasing
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> interest,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> development, and adoption from organizations outside of Google.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> === Inexperience with Open Source ===
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Google believes strongly in open source and the exchange of
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> information
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> advance new ideas and work. Examples of this commitment are
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> active
>>>>
>>>>> OSS
>>>>>>>>>>> projects such as Chromium (https://www.chromium.org) and
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Kubernetes (
>>>>
>>>>> http://kubernetes.io/). With Dataflow, we have tried to be
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> increasingly
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> open and forward-looking; we have published a paper in the VLDB
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> conference
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> describing the Dataflow model (
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.vldb.org/pvldb/vol8/p1792-Akidau.pdf) and were quick
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> release
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the Dataflow SDK as open source software with the launch of
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cloud
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dataflow.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Our submission to the Apache Software Foundation is a logical
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> extension
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> our commitment to open source software.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> === Homogeneous Developers ===
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The majority of committers in this proposal belong to Google
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> due to
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> fact that Dataflow has emerged from several internal Google
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> projects.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> proposal also includes committers outside of Google who are
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> actively
>>>>
>>>>> involved with other Apache projects, such as Hadoop, Flink, and
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>

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