On 11 January 2018 at 00:52, Tal Liron <t...@cloudify.co> wrote:
> The line mentioned is not in NOTICE. The line is specifically a comment in
> a file used to download/install a 3rd party product on the cloud.

OK, then my comment about the NOTICE file contents was not relevant here.

> I truly think we are in the clear here.

My comment about the dependency on GPL code has yet to be answered, so
I don't think you can claim compliance yet.

> Re: Python packaging. Apache Airflow is also in incubation and also, like
> AriaTosca, does not have the "-incubating" in its Python package name.
>
> I think it's time we had some clarity here regarding policy and apply it to
> all projects. AriaTosca would of course comply with whatever is decided.
>
> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 6:44 PM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 10 January 2018 at 17:10, Tal Liron <t...@cloudify.co> wrote:
>> > John, the line is relevant. The service template in question is used to
>> > install and deploy Clearwater IMS.
>>
>> The NOTICE and LICENSE files are ONLY for files that are actually
>> included in the release archive.
>>
>> > I believe users should know what they are installing.
>>
>> Yes, but not in NOTICE.
>> There should be a prompt to ask the user whether it's OK to install the
>> code.
>> The license can be mentioned at that point.
>>
>> A separate issue is whether the dependency on the GPL code is OK.
>> Will the product run without the download?
>> The general rule is that Cat X dependencies (includes GPL) must be
>> optional.
>>
>> http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#optional
>>
>> > I don't know if we can include a suffix easily, and wonder why need to
>> > change it now -- it will make it harder for users to upgrade if there are
>> > two different package names.
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 10:57 AM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 2:35 AM Tal Liron <t...@cloudify.co> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Hi Justin,
>> >> >
>> >> > Project Clearwater is GNU GPLv3, however it is not included in this
>> >> > distribution. These two files are Apache licensed. The line you quote
>> is
>> >> > merely informational.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> That line should be removed, as it is not relevant to the release
>> contents
>> >> then.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > That tarball and wheel file you are looking at are not Apache
>> >> > distributions, but rather Python packages. Are you sure they need to
>> have
>> >> > "-incubating" in the name?
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> As far as I can tell, this is a limitation of the pypi packages, and the
>> >> source release includes the proper naming.  I see that in the 0.1.1
>> >> release, this issue didn't come up.  Do you know if we can include a
>> suffix
>> >> this like, or would pypi treat this as a part of the version #?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:15 AM, Justin Mclean <justinmcl...@me.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > Hi,
>> >> > >
>> >> > > -1 binding as releases don't have incubating in the name.
>> >> > > apache-ariatosca-0.2.0.tar.gz
>> >> > > apache_ariatosca-0.2.0-py2-none-any.whl
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Also can you confirm the license of these two files  [1][2] as they
>> >> > > contain:
>> >> > > "Project Clearwater is an open-source IMS core, developed by
>> Metaswitch
>> >> > > Networks and released under the GNU GPLv3."
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I checked:
>> >> > > - incubating missing in release name
>> >> > > - signatures and hashes correct
>> >> > > - DISCLAIMER exists
>> >> > > - LICENSE and NOTICE correct
>> >> > > - no unexpected binaries in source release
>> >> > > - all source files have ASF headers
>> >> > > - couldn’t compile from source but probably my environment
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Thanks,
>> >> > > Justin
>> >> > >
>> >> > > 1. apache-ariatosca-0.2.0-incubating.tar/apache-
>> >> > > ariatosca-0.2.0-incubating/examples/clearwater/
>> >> > > clearwater-live-test-existing.yaml
>> >> > > 2. apache-ariatosca-0.2.0-incubating.tar/apache-
>> >> > >
>> >> > ariatosca-0.2.0-incubating/examples/clearwater/
>> >> clearwater-single-existing.
>> >> > > yaml
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