On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 7:53 PM Tal Liron <t...@cloudify.co> wrote: > The line mentioned is not in NOTICE. The line is specifically a comment in > a file used to download/install a 3rd party product on the cloud. I truly > think we are in the clear here. > > Re: Python packaging. Apache Airflow is also in incubation and also, like > AriaTosca, does not have the "-incubating" in its Python package name. > > I think it's time we had some clarity here regarding policy and apply it to > all projects. AriaTosca would of course comply with whatever is decided. >
Actually, if anything, my lessons learned from the early days of AT have helped us provide more input to projects like Airflow. We haven't dealt with a lot of python projects, especially those published via pypi. So please help us understand factually what are the issues. When we publish a package, it should be named apache-projectname-version-incubating. Does the way pypi work mean that the version is "version-incubating" or does pypi support qualifiers? > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 6:44 PM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 10 January 2018 at 17:10, Tal Liron <t...@cloudify.co> wrote: > > > John, the line is relevant. The service template in question is used to > > > install and deploy Clearwater IMS. > > > > The NOTICE and LICENSE files are ONLY for files that are actually > > included in the release archive. > > > > > I believe users should know what they are installing. > > > > Yes, but not in NOTICE. > > There should be a prompt to ask the user whether it's OK to install the > > code. > > The license can be mentioned at that point. > > > > A separate issue is whether the dependency on the GPL code is OK. > > Will the product run without the download? > > The general rule is that Cat X dependencies (includes GPL) must be > > optional. > > > > http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#optional > > > > > I don't know if we can include a suffix easily, and wonder why need to > > > change it now -- it will make it harder for users to upgrade if there > are > > > two different package names. > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 10:57 AM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org > > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 2:35 AM Tal Liron <t...@cloudify.co> wrote: > > >> > > >> > Hi Justin, > > >> > > > >> > Project Clearwater is GNU GPLv3, however it is not included in this > > >> > distribution. These two files are Apache licensed. The line you > quote > > is > > >> > merely informational. > > >> > > > >> > > >> That line should be removed, as it is not relevant to the release > > contents > > >> then. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > >> > That tarball and wheel file you are looking at are not Apache > > >> > distributions, but rather Python packages. Are you sure they need to > > have > > >> > "-incubating" in the name? > > >> > > > >> > > >> As far as I can tell, this is a limitation of the pypi packages, and > the > > >> source release includes the proper naming. I see that in the 0.1.1 > > >> release, this issue didn't come up. Do you know if we can include a > > suffix > > >> this like, or would pypi treat this as a part of the version #? > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > >> > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:15 AM, Justin Mclean <justinmcl...@me.com > > > > >> > wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > Hi, > > >> > > > > >> > > -1 binding as releases don't have incubating in the name. > > >> > > apache-ariatosca-0.2.0.tar.gz > > >> > > apache_ariatosca-0.2.0-py2-none-any.whl > > >> > > > > >> > > Also can you confirm the license of these two files [1][2] as > they > > >> > > contain: > > >> > > "Project Clearwater is an open-source IMS core, developed by > > Metaswitch > > >> > > Networks and released under the GNU GPLv3." > > >> > > > > >> > > I checked: > > >> > > - incubating missing in release name > > >> > > - signatures and hashes correct > > >> > > - DISCLAIMER exists > > >> > > - LICENSE and NOTICE correct > > >> > > - no unexpected binaries in source release > > >> > > - all source files have ASF headers > > >> > > - couldn’t compile from source but probably my environment > > >> > > > > >> > > Thanks, > > >> > > Justin > > >> > > > > >> > > 1. apache-ariatosca-0.2.0-incubating.tar/apache- > > >> > > ariatosca-0.2.0-incubating/examples/clearwater/ > > >> > > clearwater-live-test-existing.yaml > > >> > > 2. apache-ariatosca-0.2.0-incubating.tar/apache- > > >> > > > > >> > ariatosca-0.2.0-incubating/examples/clearwater/ > > >> clearwater-single-existing. > > >> > > yaml > > >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > --------- > > >> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > >> > > For additional commands, e-mail: > general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > >
