I am not sure what the point is of spending time on putting rat exclusions
together if they’re simply going to be ignored when it comes to IPMC
members evaluating a release. Yes, we can of course discuss those rat
exclusions. No, they cannot simply be ignored and we cannot be confronted
with a very long list of issues in the IPMC vote thread primarily based on
the fact that our rat exclusions have been ignored.

I would like this to be affirmed by the IPMC and I would like our mentors
to advise on their perspective on this too.

Gj

On Sunday, January 21, 2018, Jan Lahoda <lah...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 12:39 AM, Justin Mclean <jus...@classsoftware.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > > In many/most cases, the issues picked up by Justin are issues that are
> > not
> > > visible if our rat exclusions are taken into account. Now, of course,
> > what
> > > we can do is discuss those rat exclusions. However, a starting point
> > would
> > > be for Justin or anyone else here to use those rat exclusions when
> > running
> > > rat, as a starting point. Then we’ll all have the same results and can
> > > start discussions from the same basis.
> >
> > A common problem is that rat exclusions are set too wide and in this case
> > it looks like they have been. Can you point me to the exclusion file I
> > can’t see it in the source release.
> >
>
> The exclusions start here:
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/
> master/nbbuild/build.xml#L2077
>
> (nbbuild/build.xml, line 2077)
>
> I guess I still wonder if test data (modifying which would cause tests to
> fail) need the ASF header or not. I have an idea how to add the headers in
> case of NetBeans without manually fixing every test that uses them, so if
> that works, this may be moot for NetBeans. But it still feels that the FAQ
> may need tweaking to make it more reliable and to prevent unnecessary
> discussions for others in the future.
>
> Also, is there something specific we need to do with (binary) NOTICE? For
> example, we bundle lucene-core-3.5.0.jar, so our NOTICE includes the
> content of META-INF/NOTICE.txt from that jar. Is that correct?
>
> Thanks,
>    Jan
>
>
> >
> > IMO there are still a number of serious issue (LICENSE missing licenses,
> > category B issues and source release contains compiled source code) so my
> > vote would still be -1 on this release because of those. But my vote is
> > just one vote and is not a veto, other IPMC members (including your
> > mentors) can vote +1 on this and if you get 3 +1’s and more +1s than -1s
> > then it’s a release.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Justin
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