On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 1:09 AM, Justin Mclean <jus...@classsoftware.com> wrote:
> Hi, > > > Justin's two metrics are interesting to me as I (kinda) don't view either > > of those as mentor responsibilities. > > Interesting how do you projects you mentor get to work out release profile > and what need to done re license and notice? Or are they simple boiler > plate license and notice releases and/or already involve ASF people who > have those skills and know what to look for? > I subsequently proviso'd it with: "once a general cadence has been set". > > > For me a mentor is: <snip> > > For sure it not just helping out with releases, but some of those things > you mentioned are hard to measure in any real way. > > > I'd also have an urge for us to define more specific milestones within > > incubation, with more expectation on mentor activity for podlings at > > earlier milestones. > > What would those milestones be? One of them I assume would be a podling > first release and vote on the IPMC? > Yeah. Half-arsed guess (and these start to feel more like badges in that they can be in parallel, but I think there is a typical/ideal order): * Minimum Infrastructure Setup complete * All ICLAs signed/IPMC setup * Licensing Sorted * First (no major issue) Release Complete * X% new contributors converted to IPMC * Graduation delta identified (a thread in which general@ agrees on the remaining items before graduation) Tempted to throw in these, though feeling more badge-like: * Website complete (brand, security note, link to Foundation etc) * Apache Blogged * Conference presentation * Board report complete, no comments/concerns Hen