We have also talked to Apache INFRA about the use of the https://ci.tvm.ai/ due
to the need of special setups in terms of GPU based resources etc.

So far we have received warm help from the INFRA and they are super helpful
in helping setting up CI hooks so that the community can enjoy quick
development with the volunteer maintained CI. Running and serving the
community well, we would certainly happy to use a different name if asked by
the trademark.

TQ

On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 8:49 PM Tianqi Chen <tqc...@apache.org> wrote:

> tvmlang.org was an old url by the project that eventually got deprecated
> at some time point, it now redirects to the https://tvm.apache.org/
>
> The PMC makes sure to redirect to the static Apache project when possible
> for official project related information.
>
> Due to the mechanism of the discourse website(need an active server), and
> CI (tracking is not used and is removed). It is necessary to use a
> standalone domain name
> - These domains are maintained by volunteers from TVM PMC members (tqchen,
> yizhi, haichen, jroesch, ziheng, lianminzheng, zhiics, masahi, thierry from
> different organizations)
>   as a thirdparty service to help the community.
> - Given that these domains are not used to represent the official apache
> project website(no confusion), and the usage voted by the community [2],
>   the PPMC believes it is fair to use these domains to serve the
> community, just like the use of thirdparty conference website for some of
> the ASF projects' developer conferences.
> - Of course we would love to get approval/feedback from the trademark. We
> have started a trademark thread on the community discourse forum domain
> [1],
>    and would be more than happy to follow up the guidance of the trademark
> discussion.
>
> Again the hopefully outcome is not to discourage the use of these
> services. The PMC members strive to make sure that these thirdparty
> services are sustained,
> and remain "non-blocker" even when they go down.
>
> - Introduce multiple volunteers from different organizations in the PMC to
> do the work.
> - Make sure the messages are backed up to mail-list.
> - In the case of CI, have a clear workflow(JenkinsFile) and docker source
> so that any committer could have spin up CI when necessary.
> - Every development activities (also) happens on dev@
>
>
> TQ
>
> ---
> - [1]
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rd23004bf526975fceebd1b0bae7120dc1935bb61b7cdd8243fbc36dd%40%3Ctrademarks.apache.org%3E
> - [2]
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/c34b728f01d1030146594e47e0706cd1990ed731d06e3c179b7d501a%40%3Cdev.tvm.apache.org%3E
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 8:20 PM Justin Mclean <jus...@classsoftware.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Sorry my mistake, I meant to say tvm.ai not tvm.io, but as I said
>> subdomains on tvm.ai are not redirecting. For instance discuss.tvm.ai
>> stays as it is. Other sub-domains include ci.tvm.ai , tracking.tvm.ai
>> and docs.tvm.ai that I’ve found. There might be others, of those four,
>> only docs redirects.
>>
>> I notice that forum [1] also states "Open source community on end to end
>> stack for deploying deep learning workloads to hardware backends
>> tvmlang.org.” Who controls tvmlang.org? It not clear on that page that
>> this is a space for discussion about an Apache project.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Justin
>>
>> 1. https://discuss.tvm.ai
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