Thanks Sheng Wu,

> Do you mean there is no single Meitu employee(s) was
working/contributed to that project ever since?

There are still some guys contributing to Kvrocks, but most contributions
were from the community,
I will discuss with the Metiu side about how to handle it.


On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 3:42 PM Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > but I think it's right that meitu should claim clearly about the
> copyright
> date since the
>
> Do you mean there is no single Meitu employee(s) was
> working/contributed to that project ever since?
> Because the org is virtual on GitHub, and meitu can't sign CCLA or SGA
> to that virtual group back then, I think one way or another, Meitu
> still need to prove the SGA from the transfer date to now.
> It is better for meitu to sign the SGA to declare all
> contributions(from beginning to now), others(individuals) would submit
> their ICLA(or other companies' SGA) for some codes after the transfer.
>
> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> Twitter, wusheng1108
>
> hulk <hulk.webs...@gmail.com> 于2022年4月25日周一 15:06写道:
> >
> > Thanks for junping reply.
> >
> > Yes, we also agree that should grant the whole  source code repository
> for
> > ASF,
> > but I think it's right that meitu should claim clearly about the
> copyright
> > date since the
> > the repository was moved to another organization after then.
> >
> > So our question is should we need to sign extra other agreements for
> > podling IP Clearance?
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 2:57 PM 俊平堵 <junping...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > I think SGA here should be the same as other project.
> > > As Craig mentioned above, it is code’s copyright owner ( a legal
> entity or
> > > natural human) to grant permission for ASF. If only for code during
> certain
> > > period, that means some code is not get permitted for Apache which is
> very
> > > weird. :(
> > >
> > > hulk <hulk.webs...@gmail.com>于2022年4月25日 周一上午11:52写道:
> > >
> > > > Thanks all,
> > > >
> > > > From the meitu side,  they think should claim the date clearly
> instead of
> > > > implicitly,
> > > > so I'm not sure whether is ok to add this clarification on SGA or
> not?
> > > > If not, are there other agreements that should be signed for podling
> IP
> > > > Clearance?
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 11:13 AM Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Please check the SGA template of ASF, like Craig mentioned,
> usually,
> > > > > there is no date/timestamp included.
> > > > > The foundation just needs legal approval that the company granted
> to
> > > > > move codes to the foundation, others(like individuals) should
> submit
> > > > > ICLA(s)
> > > > >
> > > > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > > >
> > > > > hulk <hulk.webs...@gmail.com> 于2022年4月25日周一 10:19写道:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I think the key is how they make this conclusion. Was the
> project
> > > > > > > moving to a 3rd party repository, and changing the owner from a
> > > > > > > license perspective?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kvrocks has transferred from the meitu to the KvrocksLabs
> > > organization
> > > > > and claimed the copyright belongs to the Kvrocks community.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Is there a place/way to track this event?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We didn't track this event in a public place. The lawyer thinks
> they
> > > > can
> > > > > only grant the copyright when all of the contributors are their
> > > employees
> > > > > (before 2020.3.23). After that, the copyright should belong to the
> > > > Kvrocks
> > > > > community.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 8:29 AM Sheng Wu <
> wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > While the IPMCs and PPMCs preparing the SGA
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I think IPMC don't prepare SGA, SGA(s) are from original owners.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > Its lawyer said that code contributions from then on belong
> to the
> > > > > Kvrocks
> > > > > >> community.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I think the key is how they make this conclusion. Was the
> project
> > > > > >> moving to a 3rd party repository, and changing the owner from a
> > > > > >> license perspective? Is there a place/way to track this event?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > > > >> Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> tison <wander4...@gmail.com> 于2022年4月25日周一 06:46写道:
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Hi IPMCs,
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Recently we voted and accepted Kvrocks to the Incubator[1].
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > While the IPMCs and PPMCs preparing the SGA, we meet an issue
> that
> > > > the
> > > > > >> > original entity sign a SGA but explicit limit the agreement on
> > > code
> > > > > from
> > > > > >> > 2018 to 2020.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Its lawyer said that code contributions from then on belong
> to the
> > > > > Kvrocks
> > > > > >> > community.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > The issue is that since the original entity sign such a SGA
> and
> > > all
> > > > > core
> > > > > >> > contributors sign ICLAs, is there other agreements should be
> > > signed
> > > > > for
> > > > > >> > podling IP Clearance?
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Best,
> > > > > >> > tison.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > [1]
> > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/shxcg56j3x36t75x63voj82s6hhdtrcv
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
>
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